Petition to Revoke Article 50 - Page 4

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Who decides whats best from staying as opposed to who informs that a, the UK as a world trading partner will grow and prosper, pay it's own way and thrive ??.

All that I've seen thus far is a large number of supposed key industrialists including our Canadian governor of the back of england flip flop backwards and forwards.

Big business moves it's headquarters out of the UK because of Brexit fears, dont strike me as savvy pusiness people when they or nobody really knows whats going to happen nor when nor even if !!

Sir James Dyson moves his hq and manufacturing facility to Singapore was big news, when you look at that decision from another point of view it's probably more about costs both material and especially labour costs not necessarily Brexit fears, 

Can anyone tell me how many Dyson hoovers of all makes litter their local recycling centres as opposed to other makes ?, the sheer numbers make one think theyre either not that good, (yet very expensive), or people fall out of love with the hype and dump them for a longer lasting cheaper alternative, and that doesnt cover the smaller appliances like the £400 hairdryer, £400 for a freakin hairdryer ? Lol.

As with all protests I'd garner that half at least of the ones, 4 million ??? Who marched on Westminster if they were genuine and not professional protestors got as far with making our pig in trough, self serviant oh ignore them mp's take notice, thats the ones actually who turn up in the HOC and/or arent asleep in the HOL got as far as the drivers who held up our motorways last week.

The police can prosecute or at least threaten to "book" easy targets like the motorway blockers but seemingly cant/wont target the organisers who brought the centre of London to a standstill. 

I need genuine reliable proof that the 4 million, which is still somewhat short of the 7.4 million majority where/are actually genuine, of voting age and not students with a grudge, from what I read, quite a number where bussed in, brought to the capitol on chartered trains etc etc, given a train ticket to the capitol for a day out roaming the streets on a day where one isnt particularly doing much sounds a bit like a nice jolly day out to me lol

I voted leave on the back of information and events that we see and hear in/on mainstream news, EU/Brussels bullying by mostly unelected pompous assholes plus the untold £billions the UK is made to pay every day/week/year that woulda/coulda/shoulda go into the UK infrastructure not the pension pots, the subsidised travel, the unmitigated waste that Brussels perpetrates like moving buildings every now and again for no real sensible reason.

The UK pulling the plug should shed us of potato quotas let our farmers grow wonky veg and the like, re-institute our fishing fleets, we can make trade deals with whoever and whereever we please without pleading with Brussels for risk and assessments, damage limitation, we wont know our complete potential till we strike out and do it.

Once we do and the EU becomes ever more disfunctional and in dissaray watch other countries like Italy look to break away.

Scotland ? isnt Nichola Sturgeon forgetting just how much the UK subsidises her "country" ?, whilst just 10 Irish mp's are being allowed to put up this backstop bullshit !, 

Theresa May has a mandate to leave the EU on March the 29th.

She should grow some balls and stop arsing about going cap in hand to the likes of Merkel and Macron whos just about the most unpopular premier ever and get on with it, if her cabinet members dont like it she should fire them all into the back benches, there are probably hordes of potential new ministers awaiting their chance, and do please notice that slithering posturing Jermemy Hunt is watching her back !! I wouldnt trust that piece of smuggery to cross me over the road.

David Camerbuffoon tried to get concessions as May has been doing and repeatedly flew back with rebuttalls and refusals and snubs as May has.

Time to stand up and be counted.

A second referendum ?? Bring it on and see what all the toady mp's do when the majority increases !!

Then we are in agreement.  Bring it on.  I still say “REMAIN” will this time be the majority.  Lots of students have now reached voting age .....

It’s pointless to respond to all the fake claims made above but just for clarification it was a *million* that demonstrated in London (yes we are still allowed to demonstrate) - not 4 million. But over 5 million (and counting) have signed the petition to revoke A50. Let’s have a third referendum and see - if Leave win so be it.

1975 - 67% voted Remain.(17 million)

2016 - 52% voted Leave. (17 million - OK, just 40,000 more than voted Remain 41 years earlier)

Much has happened here since I last posted. Chevyrecycler3 has raised some dynamic facts e.g. the desire of UK farmers to grow wonky potatoes, the EU moving it's power between Strasbourg and Brussels, and the relocation to Singapore of a vacuum cleaner factory and Italy to leave the EU.

One thing is certain Italy won't leave the EU. They know where their bread is buttered. UK farmers growing wonky potatoes with just an internal market in which to sell, I'm sure the agricultural section of the Great British Electorate is clapping its hands with the consequent drop in the price of their produce. Even Mr Dyson knows that his products must be sold within the EU and the UK, otherwise his profits will be much reduced. A move to Singapore is much cheaper than producing his main product in a non EU country. He is not stupid, you know! 

And the DUP, a politicial party in Northern Ireland in which Theresa May is relying on for support is still baluking even at lunch-time today and indicated that they will not support the Theresa May. And she trusted them?

Meanwhile, Mick-the-Brit who resides in Spain without a Residencia gets more worried. Even the Brits with a Residencia have become worried on at least two fronts (a) They don't know how they'll be treated in Spain post Brexit and (b) The value of their Spanish property and potential rental will decrease. I'm pretty sure they couldn't give a hoot about wonky UK potatoes.

So Democracy must win? I'm sure other members of the EU are awake at night and having nightmares about Brexit. One poster on this forum on another thread pointed out that before the EU referendum many Brits thought the EU needed Great Britain more than Great Britain needed the EU which has now proved to be fallacy. The Scots at present need the UK, of that there is no doubt, but what if Brexit leads to Scotland leaving the UK and probably followed by Wales and both to join the EU?

And for those who believed the UK always stood alone. Don't delude yourselves, the UK never stood alone on anything, even WW2 and WW1. Newsflash! It was the Yanks that led to Germany being defeated. 

Democracy went mad in the EU in the lead up to the Referendum. Lies permeated. Innocents believed. The poor will suffer on Brexit. One thing is certain Boris won't be short of a meal.

Theresa's days are numbered. She has ignored the current majority running after false Democracy. She has now backed the wrong horse and has a chance of leading the UK into doom.

I have just reread this thread in its entirety. It is very interesting and probably has many separate issues on Brexit than are being debated on the UK mainland. One poster pointed out that if all the Brits in Spain voted "Remain" Brexit would not now be an issue. Consequently, it can be argued that the Brits in Spain brought all that is not good about Brexit on themselves. I'm sure the old-fart expats  with a "half" in hand on a high stool and their spouse sitting quietly and dutifully  at another table are now proud of themselves. 

They now realise that their pensions will be unfavourably affected, their property not increasing in value, less opportunities to rent out their property when they are back in the UK pontificating condescendingly on living the dream in Spain. 

On the other hand Sammy the Sun Reader from Sunderland and Maccer from Manchester look on Brit expats in Spain as absentee pretentious pompous part-time participants in a UK economy  while not paying any taxes in the UK. And the expat Brit feels that they will get support from Sammy and Maccer! I don't think so.

It is becoming more apparent by the day that the expat Brit in Spain is being backed into a corner by several attacking prongs e.g. reduction in the value of pensions, concern of how non EU expats will be treated if Brexit occurs, reduction in rental income, a property market that will not show an increase in value etc. And that is before those who have no Residencia even think of the consequence of the starting gates in Spanish airports.

The reality is that the immigration issue in the UK was the main driver in favour of Brexit - not wonky potatoes, not straight bananas, not fishing regulations, not tourism, not expense accounts of EU politicians. In all my conversations with Brits in Mojacar regarding the UK it was immigration, immigration, immigration. The paradox is the same Brits are immigrants in Spain. 

There is still time to have the Brexit vote reversed - Take it! or like thousands of Brits in the UK get an Irish passport pronto! 

“There is still time to have the Brexit vote reversed - Take it! or like thousands of Brits in the UK get an Irish passport pronto!”

Soooo bejasus and begorrah, now how would I be getting myself an Irish passport? I’d jump at that chance to be sure (to be sure) :-D

Couldnt be less arsed getting an Irish passport tbh, begorrah or no begorrah. 

My pension is still subject to tax in the uk as were the hundreds of thousands of uk pounds during my working life in the UK, my partner and I are relative newcomer ex-pats so as such still not fully divorced from the UK. 

I do however still think that migrants, legal, or not, those who think asylum is an easy way in pleading oh I'll be killed if I go back to wherever I came from who havent paid in one penny to the uk system but who can manage to find thousands to traffickers to get them to the uk should be subject to minimum waiting times before being given any benefits whatsoever, the sooner the uk makes it plain they dont get nowt if theyve not given owt the better then watch all the treasure seekers numbers dwindle.

As for Sunnysammy and Maccer withholding support for as they put it pretentious, pompous p/t participants in the UK economy, two votes wont cause me any sleepless nights.

I didnt vote leave solely on the immigration issue, most everyone who voted I'd like to think neither, useless self serving politicians, corruption in Westminster, less police, more crime, you could bundle lots of things into a protest vote.

Bring on the rumoured referendum mk2, even more so a snap General Election and watch both the referendum numbers swell as yet another protest vote causing the uk voters to react against all the mp's pissing about who think they can totally ignore the 17.4 million who voted leave as well as those same mp's who are now once again ignoring publc feelings and trying to take control of the Brexit issue, notice one Yvette Cooper rumoured to have 70% of her constituents voting leave who thinks she knows better, dolts to the slaughter, the french had the right idea when they used the guillotine to chop off the heads of the aristocracy, the same ones who now masquerade as uk mp's.