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They plan a large open quarry near Vera less than 1 km from Lomas del Mar and Valdeserra, Garrucha and Mojacar etc.

Posted: Mon Apr 1, 2024 5:24pm
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Francis

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Hello everyone in the Vera, Garrucha, Mojacar, and surrounding areas. 

My neighbor has just told me about a new planned "open cast mine" in above area.

If this goes ahead it will have dire consequences for anybody living in the general area.

This needs to be stopped. This is going to add a lot more heavy trucks in and out of Garrucha.

You can sign a petition to see if it can be stopped before they get full planning go ahead.

Log onto https://www.change.org/p/oposici%C3%B3n-mina-luc%C3%ADa-en-vera-loma-del-mar-muy-cerca-de-la-parada-del-ave?recruiter=705475337&recruited_by_id=ce6243e0-1aa2-11e7-a141-c96de91b37dc&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=petition_dashboard_share_modal&utm_medium=copylink

to register your objection to this....

Link for recent press release ; https://www.almeriahoy.com/2024/03/abriran-en-vera-una-gran-cantera-1-km.html?fbclid=IwAR1lUYNUfb0Z4Wbq2R96v2bbQQUOYyNKMgGyueHUlsOCBFVLds9sRQ-Gbdo&m=1

Concerned Francis

DarioMartin

Posted: Mon Apr 1, 2024 8:27pm

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Posted: Mon Apr 1, 2024 8:27pm

Many thanks for posting this - I signed a few days ago

Airtaine

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:14am

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Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:14am

I have to ask to what exactly are  ''the dire consequences for anybody living in the general area'' your foretelling? 

 The peticíon states that ..... it is located a few meters from homes, within a municipality dedicated to tourism, a few meters from a school, near urbanizations and animal farms... Mine that constitute a threat to the health and well-being of an entire municipality.

The map on the peticíon page, if to scale, the quarry is not a few meters from any for the things listed  While the peticíon  maybe well intentioned how much revenue and jobs will be created if it goes ahead? Who do you think will come out on top in this case? 

DarioMartin

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:18am

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Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:18am

Airtaine wrote on Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:14am:

I have to ask to what exactly are  ''the dire consequences for anybody living in the general area'' your foretelling? 

 The peticíon states that ..... it is located a few meters from homes, within a municipality dedicated to tourism, a few meters from a school, near urbanizations and animal farms... Mine that constitute a threat to the health and well-being of an entire municipality....

...

The map on the peticíon page, if to scale, the quarry is not a few meters from any for the things listed  While the peticíon  maybe well intentioned how much revenue and jobs will be created if it goes ahead? Who do you think will come out on top in this case? 

Here’s a translation of one quite coherent objection:

Not only will it destroy the landscape, (just as the AVE has done), but there will also be a lot of pollution and it is a serious risk to the health of all the people who live in the region.

Airtaine

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:30am

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Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:30am

DarioMartin wrote on Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:18am:

Here’s a translation of one quite coherent objection:

Not only will it destroy the landscape, (just as the AVE has done), but there will also be a lot of pollution and it is a serious risk to the health of all the people who live in the region.

where did you see this? 

Have to ask if this was a new urbanization or golf course think the same objections would apply? Would they not have the same environmental effect if they were built? 

What health risk dust

Their mining rocks not radioactive materails.

BTW do you object to the AVE line?

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DarioMartin

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:45am

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Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:45am

Airtaine wrote on Tue Apr 2, 2024 11:30am:

where did you see this? 

Have to ask if this was a new urbanization or golf course think the same objections would apply? Would they not have the same environmental effect if they were built? 

What health risk dust? 

Their mining rocks not radioactive materails.

BTW do you object to the AVE line?

The AVE is moot.  It’s been “under construction” for 10 years or so and there will come a point where eventually (in another 10 years?) it’s finished, the land around is restored and improved and that will be that.  The objection to the AVE is by and large that when completed it will push the cost of housing in this area up quite steeply, which will make it if not unaffordable, at least very very very expensive for those that live - and earn - locally.  Those that own holiday homes or rentals in the area are rubbing their hands with glee.

With regards the quarry and open pit mine, even Vera Ayuntamiento doesn’t want it, themselves citing health risks to surrounding residents as well as severe damage to local area.  Frequent blasting - 16 times a year or more, 30 year operating life and 50 trucks a day leaving the site.  Health risks of mining Verite aside, it’s an ecological disaster set in the middle of a tourist area.  What will having a large open cast mine, blasting and frequent heavy trucks do for tourism to the area I wonder?

alant

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 2:50pm

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Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 2:50pm

Lets come and live in Spain and then complain? You would be better complaining about what is happening in your own country.

DarioMartin

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 4:45pm

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Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 4:45pm

alant wrote on Tue Apr 2, 2024 2:50pm:

Lets come and live in Spain and then complain? You would be better complaining about what is happening in your own country.

I’m a permanent resident. I live here all the time, I don’t have a place in the UK I could go to, I work here, I earn money here, pay Autónomo here, pay tax here and vote in local elections … I think that kind of gives me some right to express my feelings on the area I live in, don’t you? Notwithstanding that those feelings are very much in line with many local residents and indeed the ayuntamiento …

keith2412

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 6:01pm

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Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 6:01pm

DarioMartin wrote on Tue Apr 2, 2024 4:45pm:

I’m a permanent resident. I live here all the time, I don’t have a place in the UK I could go to, I work here, I earn money here, pay Autónomo here, pay tax here and vote in local elections … I think that kind of gives me some right to express my feelings on the area I live in, don’t you...

...? Notwithstanding that those feelings are very much in line with many local residents and indeed the ayuntamiento …

Well said Dario I totally agree with everything you have said.

Jenni

Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 6:24pm

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Posted: Tue Apr 2, 2024 6:24pm

I use to live In Valencia/Murcia, where there are HUGE open cast mines and have been for years. The massive lorries carrying the Marble or stone, use to devastate the local villages that they passed thru to get to the motorways, The noise alone of these lorries were enough to wake the dead and they start at 06.00 in the morning and go on all thru the day often not finishing until 22.00.   Once people realise the house that they were thinking of buying were on one of the routes to the motorway, many a sale fell thru. I hope this helps  you folks to decide whether to object or not.

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