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tony3121

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:50am

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:50am

Matthew wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:35pm:

You're all heart, Jenni.

But, I'm sure the authorities have done their homework as to whom is the most deserving. 

The Authorities do not look to see the most deserving they look at who will cost the most and that is old people taking up hospital beds.

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:11am

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:11am

tony3121 wrote on Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:50am:

The Authorities do not look to see the most deserving they look at who will cost the most and that is old people taking up hospital beds.

Interesting point Tony. I hadn't thought of that. But, we're not going to refuse the vaccine or delay it.

Jenni

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:33am

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:33am

tony3121 wrote on Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:50am:

The Authorities do not look to see the most deserving they look at who will cost the most and that is old people taking up hospital beds.

LMJ said the same thing yesterday, so I think I have my answer, thank you, I thought it was something like sentiment or even the fact the most of the House of Lords are nearing 100!!!!!   Cynical me, never !!!!!!

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:14am

Jenni wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:33pm:

Disagree Matthew,  we should be taking care of the young population first, not last. they are the worlds future.

Once upon a time WE were the World's future and look what we've done with it....

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:54am

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Alicia 11 wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:31pm:

you have to feel sorry for all Governments world wide this virus is something that none of them bargained on and depending on the populations some are more obedient than others so they give advice and get ignored.  the virus loves people who must hug and kiss and meet up when it could be avo...

...ided who want to travel around unhindered by something unseen which could kill them,

the older and more vunerable must be protected so they don't block up the medical facilities as if they fall ill they need far more treatment than the younger stronger ones.  if they can then roll out the vaccinations to cover everyone else they might just find a way out and the world can get back on track.

the problem will be that nations that are poor will have the virus around for a lot longer than the rich ones so travel will always have the threat of a continual outbreak somewhere.

the more we can all do to contain it the better for all of us  

Sorry.  “feel sorry for all governments” Nope. Are you joking ?    I’m probably as cynical as Jenni . They are only ever looking after their own pensions . They just happened to be in power when this hit, but i’d put money in it that Bojo can’t wait to get out of power and join his dad in France. 

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Jenni wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:40pm:

This is something I am struggling with, I have read the UK gov web site and the Spanish ones and the WHO, and they dont give an answer.

The question is, why are 70, 80 90 + people being given priority to receive the vaccine?

The only answer seems to be that they are the most venerable in our society. That may be so, but at the ripe old age of 70, 80 90 these people have had their lives, been to work, had kids, holidays, been educated, etc etc. In my opinion surly we should be protecting the younger population first (under 60's), children should be the priority they are our future, not someone of 90. 

This was brought to mind this morning, when in the village I met a young mother that is beside herself, because she cannot get a vaccine for her 2 children, even if she pays, and to crown it all, the school in the village has turned off all the heating and opened all the window's (to blow the virus away) and the children have been told to bring in blankets so they can keep warm.

So what government official had this bright idea, us oldies might remember in the 50's.60's in the UK they had what was called an Open Air School, and anyone with Asthma, TB, Hayfever, anything with a respire infection was sent there, these schools only had 3 walls the 4th was open to the elements the children were taught in their coats, these useless schools were phased out in the 60's, when it was realised that they did more harm than good. Now it looks like Spain has gone back to the dark ages and expecting children to sit in cold classrooms with the windows open with the temperature outside at -1, yesterday.  

Anyway I digress my question is, 'why are OPA's given priority', anyone have any thoughts.

BTW I am in my 70's and would happily give up my vaccine to a person under 60.

Yes because they are most likely to die from it !! 

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:53pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:53pm

Mathew,youve got to stop inviting people for a drink, we still have a max of 6 to a table,and panamas do count as much as they would probably disagree

James 

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:15pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:15pm

Jenni wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:40pm:

This is something I am struggling with, I have read the UK gov web site and the Spanish ones and the WHO, and they dont give an answer.

The question is, why are 70, 80 90 + people being given priority to receive the vaccine?

The only answer seems to be that they are the most venerable in our society. That may be so, but at the ripe old age of 70, 80 90 these people have had their lives, been to work, had kids, holidays, been educated, etc etc. In my opinion surly we should be protecting the younger population first (under 60's), children should be the priority they are our future, not someone of 90. 

This was brought to mind this morning, when in the village I met a young mother that is beside herself, because she cannot get a vaccine for her 2 children, even if she pays, and to crown it all, the school in the village has turned off all the heating and opened all the window's (to blow the virus away) and the children have been told to bring in blankets so they can keep warm.

So what government official had this bright idea, us oldies might remember in the 50's.60's in the UK they had what was called an Open Air School, and anyone with Asthma, TB, Hayfever, anything with a respire infection was sent there, these schools only had 3 walls the 4th was open to the elements the children were taught in their coats, these useless schools were phased out in the 60's, when it was realised that they did more harm than good. Now it looks like Spain has gone back to the dark ages and expecting children to sit in cold classrooms with the windows open with the temperature outside at -1, yesterday.  

Anyway I digress my question is, 'why are OPA's given priority', anyone have any thoughts.

BTW I am in my 70's and would happily give up my vaccine to a person under 60.

I understand your thinking but if the younger people get the virus they are more likely to live.  My son has had the virus very badly and he is fine now.

All life is valuable and i believe the most elderly, welfare workers etc should be first.  Just because we are old does not mean we are of no value to our families or the community.  Your comments have upset me greatly it is as if we are worth nothing, not worth saving.

Edna

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:38pm

ednab wrote on Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:15pm:

I understand your thinking but if the younger people get the virus they are more likely to live.  My son has had the virus very badly and he is fine now.

All life is valuable and i believe the most elderly, welfare workers etc should be first.  Just because we are old does not mean we are of no value to our families or the community.  Your comments have upset me greatly it is as if we are worth nothing, not worth saving....

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Edna

I agree it’s like saying we are not worth saving it has upset me too 😂

Anne24

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:43pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:43pm

Posts like this make my blood boil! Maybe you should have spoken to Captain Tom before he raised over 32 million pounds for NHS charities for his 100th birthday? And those at most risk of dying are the elderly. What are you suggesting? That we should incarcerate all the people who have contributed to their society all their lives? Or just let them die? 

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