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hartcjhart

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:38pm

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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:38pm

Jenni wrote on Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:40pm:

OMG get off your high horse. Leeching/Reaping how dare you you pompous person. 

truth hurt does it?

what would you call it then,getting the benefit from the majority of people having the vaccine which will help bring the pandemic under control and bring society closer to the norm,travel,entertainment etc

Jenni

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:45am

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:45am

hartcjhart wrote on Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:38pm:

truth hurt does it?

what would you call it then,getting the benefit from the majority of people having the vaccine which will help bring the pandemic under control and bring society closer to the norm,travel,entertainment etc

I will just treat you and your ridiculous comments with the contempt you deserve, I will not be wasting my time on you.

david 52

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:15pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:15pm

We wondered the same thing the only conclusion we could come to was if the vaccination didn't work well you an gess the rest. 

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:20am

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:20am

Some side effects of the Covid Vaccine:- 

Side effects in Covid-19 vaccine rollout of a ‘mild to moderate’ nature (breakingnews.ie) If you manage to open the report (from Ireland) you'll find there are no more side effects than any other vaccine of any kind. 

If you read through the report you'll find that two major hospitals in Ireland used the "excess" vaccine on family members (topical in Ireland at the minute).

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:05pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:05pm

This is a good question, and like all good questions the answer is not simple. I believe the reason is multi facetted. The obvious answer might be that the older one is, the mortality rate goes up, rapidly.  That is bad new for anyone over 60 - 65. Between the ages of 50 to 59 the Covid related death rate is between 0.5% and 1.0%  At ages 60 to 69 it jumps to between 2.0% and 3.0%  At 70 to 79 it increases to over 5% and for over 80's the Covid related death rate is over 10.0%  If you have a health condition your risk is massively higher (impossible to put a number on it because for some people it would mean certain death ie a 100% death rate)

One might realize that these are serious odds and so is a good reason for receiving vaccination first.  However there are also nearly 12 million people in the UK over 65 years of age and if only a small percentage of them needed hospital treatment one can appreciate how quickly the nhs would become inundated and unable to function, for anyone!

Even now, the number of people being diagnosed with heart and cancer disease during the pandemic is down by 40%  That is because people are staying away from the health service and the nhs is postponing treatments due to Covid. That means in the years to come there will likely be a surge in death from disease not being treated now.

Your views are noble and selfless however young people (under 50's) are unlikely to die from Covid so the argument to vaccinate them first is an emotional one rather than logical.

Great question and I enjoyed thinking about it.

Jenni

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:16pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:16pm

AndrewS wrote on Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:05pm:

This is a good question, and like all good questions the answer is not simple. I believe the reason is multi facetted. The obvious answer might be that the older one is, the mortality rate goes up, rapidly.  That is bad new for anyone over 60 - 65. Between the ages of 50 to 59 the Covid rela...

...ted death rate is between 0.5% and 1.0%  At ages 60 to 69 it jumps to between 2.0% and 3.0%  At 70 to 79 it increases to over 5% and for over 80's the Covid related death rate is over 10.0%  If you have a health condition your risk is massively higher (impossible to put a number on it because for some people it would mean certain death ie a 100% death rate)

One might realize that these are serious odds and so is a good reason for receiving vaccination first.  However there are also nearly 12 million people in the UK over 65 years of age and if only a small percentage of them needed hospital treatment one can appreciate how quickly the nhs would become inundated and unable to function, for anyone!

Even now, the number of people being diagnosed with heart and cancer disease during the pandemic is down by 40%  That is because people are staying away from the health service and the nhs is postponing treatments due to Covid. That means in the years to come there will likely be a surge in death from disease not being treated now.

Your views are noble and selfless however young people (under 50's) are unlikely to die from Covid so the argument to vaccinate them first is an emotional one rather than logical.

Great question and I enjoyed thinking about it.

Thanks Andrew for a very concise and non judgemental reply.

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