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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:40am
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Jenni

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This statement below was shared to me from the UK, I am sharing it with this forum.I have been wearing a mask in stores (and limiting my trips) since March when this whole thing went down. I’m not sure how being considerate to others for the common good is now being mocked by some who are calling it “living in fear”, but it needs to stop.... When I wear a mask over my nose and mouth in public and in the stores/Supermarkets/Pharmacies/Offices - I want you to know the following:

I'm educated enough to know that I could be asymptomatic and still give you the virus.

No, I don't "live in fear" of the virus; I just want to be part of the solution, not the problem.

I don't feel like the "government controls me". I feel like I'm an adult contributing to the security in our society and I want to teach others the same.

If we could all live with the consideration of others in mind, the whole world would be a much better place.

Wearing a mask doesn't make me weak, scared, stupid or even "controlled". It makes me caring and responsible.

When you think about your appearance, discomfort, or other people's opinion of you, imagine a loved one - a child, father, mother, grandparent, aunt, uncle or even a stranger - placed on a ventilator, alone without you or any family member allowed at their bedside..... Ask yourself if you could have helped them a little by wearing a mask.

I copied and posted......Who else will do the same?

Thank you

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Sharehe message below was forwarded to me from the UK, I am sharing it with this forum.

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:42am

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:42am

Thank you for sharing Jenni. But, it's the caring people that read such posts - the uncaring cretins won't read this and even with the high number of deaths and infections they still don't give a whit.

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:33pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:33pm

Well said Jenni, but I fear Matthew may be right however we should continue following guidelines, wearing a mask etc. as responsible adults.

Jenni

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:41pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:41pm

AndyIOW wrote on Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:33pm:

Well said Jenni, but I fear Matthew may be right however we should continue following guidelines, wearing a mask etc. as responsible adults.

Hi Andy& Matthew,

Unfortunately you are right,  have a nice day both.

jenni

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:56pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:56pm

Well said, I agree 100 percent, when you get into your 70s and see people behaving as if it does not matter if they pass the virus on it does annoy me.  The way some are acting in the UK I am glad there is a quarantine when I go over at Christmas.  I feel so much safer here.

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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:36pm

ednab wrote on Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:56pm:

Well said, I agree 100 percent, when you get into your 70s and see people behaving as if it does not matter if they pass the virus on it does annoy me.  The way some are acting in the UK I am glad there is a quarantine when I go over at Christmas.  I feel so much safer here.

Bang on Jenni . We need to be responsible and mindful of others . As long as we are doing the right thing that’s all we can do . Just a tad of umbridge about this ,us and them thing with the quote ( the way some people are acting in the uk ) . Unfortunately it’s worldwide and I’ve seen it in mojacar when I was their for mid July to mid September. As Bigglesmentioned in an earlier post about the Lua on a Sunday afternoon. Take care and be safe folks . 

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:07pm

Jenni wrote on Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:40am:

This statement below was shared to me from the UK, I am sharing it with this forum.I have been wearing a mask in stores (and limiting my trips) since March when this whole thing went down. I’m not sure how being considerate to others for the common good is now being mocked by some who are calli...

...ng it “living in fear”, but it needs to stop.... When I wear a mask over my nose and mouth in public and in the stores/Supermarkets/Pharmacies/Offices - I want you to know the following:

I'm educated enough to know that I could be asymptomatic and still give you the virus.

No, I don't "live in fear" of the virus; I just want to be part of the solution, not the problem.

I don't feel like the "government controls me". I feel like I'm an adult contributing to the security in our society and I want to teach others the same.

If we could all live with the consideration of others in mind, the whole world would be a much better place.

Wearing a mask doesn't make me weak, scared, stupid or even "controlled". It makes me caring and responsible.

When you think about your appearance, discomfort, or other people's opinion of you, imagine a loved one - a child, father, mother, grandparent, aunt, uncle or even a stranger - placed on a ventilator, alone without you or any family member allowed at their bedside..... Ask yourself if you could have helped them a little by wearing a mask.

I copied and posted......Who else will do the same?

Thank you

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Sharehe message below was forwarded to me from the UK, I am sharing it with this forum.

Hello,

You show good empathy to those around that you care for them as you hope they would care for you and that is to be applauded.

However, the minimum size pore in a mask is bigger than a virus, they also do not seal the face, so 30L of air a minute minimum goes in and out your body. A mask can not work, except to reduce direct air flow in a projection from your mouth - see any picture taken of people outside on a cold morning and the cloud of 'steam' around them?

In a short, very short contact time between you and someone else it could help but that is all. there is no scientific proof of them working and you will notice that "face covering" is now the term used not mask. Hospital masks for Covid workers use a sealed face design and are more expensive.

Your susceptibility to the virus is individual and based on your general health? There is no scientific proof masks work in this situation. Wear a mask if you have to but please do not do make your accusations of justifiacation. that is doing the same as the abuse you have been subjected to already by others. The masks we see in the street are useless and come the winter, will cause more problems with respiratory infections from prolonged use?

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:12pm

Shay123 wrote on Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:07pm:

Hello,

You show good empathy to those around that you care for them as you hope they would care for you and that is to be applauded.

However, the minimum size pore in a mask is bigger than a virus, they also do not seal the face, so 30L of air a minute minimum goes in and out your body. A mask can not work, except to reduce direct air flow in a projection from your mouth - see any picture taken of people outside on a cold morning and the cloud of 'steam' around them?

In a short, very short contact time between you and someone else it could help but that is all. there is no scientific proof of them working and you will notice that "face covering" is now the term used not mask. Hospital masks for Covid workers use a sealed face design and are more expensive.

Your susceptibility to the virus is individual and based on your general health? There is no scientific proof masks work in this situation. Wear a mask if you have to but please do not do make your accusations of justifiacation. that is doing the same as the abuse you have been subjected to already by others. The masks we see in the street are useless and come the winter, will cause more problems with respiratory infections from prolonged use?

You were saying?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeYfUTA11s

 
Jenni

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:32pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:32pm

Shay123 wrote on Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:07pm:

Hello,

You show good empathy to those around that you care for them as you hope they would care for you and that is to be applauded.

However, the minimum size pore in a mask is bigger than a virus, they also do not seal the face, so 30L of air a minute minimum goes in and out your body. A mask can not work, except to reduce direct air flow in a projection from your mouth - see any picture taken of people outside on a cold morning and the cloud of 'steam' around them?

In a short, very short contact time between you and someone else it could help but that is all. there is no scientific proof of them working and you will notice that "face covering" is now the term used not mask. Hospital masks for Covid workers use a sealed face design and are more expensive.

Your susceptibility to the virus is individual and based on your general health? There is no scientific proof masks work in this situation. Wear a mask if you have to but please do not do make your accusations of justifiacation. that is doing the same as the abuse you have been subjected to already by others. The masks we see in the street are useless and come the winter, will cause more problems with respiratory infections from prolonged use?

Hi Shay,

Thank you for your posting, firstly I would point out I haven't 'suffered any abuse ' for sharing this thread. I am not a microbiologist, or any other kind of ologist, so this is just my opinion.

It seems to me that this thread isn;t stating anywhere that wearing a mask is 100% in stopping us getting the virus, it is saying that we have the right to choose to wear it, That we are not controlled, that we can decide for ourselves , and that we would like everyone to be as responsible as we are.

You are very blunt in telling us that the masks we are wearing are a waste of time, but you come up with no other alternative, At least wearing a mask stopping people coughing and sneezing over us and us them.

Can I ask you what type of face covering do you wear when you are out and about.

Jenni

ednab

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:54pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:54pm

Jenni wrote on Wed Oct 21, 2020 3:32pm:

Hi Shay,

Thank you for your posting, firstly I would point out I haven't 'suffered any abuse ' for sharing this thread. I am not a microbiologist, or any other kind of ologist, so this is just my opinion.

It seems to me that this thread isn;t stating anywhere that wearing a mask is 100% in stopping us getting the virus, it is saying that we have the right to choose to wear it, That we are not controlled, that we can decide for ourselves , and that we would like everyone to be as responsible as we are.

You are very blunt in telling us that the masks we are wearing are a waste of time, but you come up with no other alternative, At least wearing a mask stopping people coughing and sneezing over us and us them.

Can I ask you what type of face covering do you wear when you are out and about.

Jenni

We are not saying the masks work only that even if it helps a little  it is better than doing nothing.  Personal to me, I feel safer if I see  people wearing masks, I feel as if they are trying to help, trying to protect others.  It is only my option but I feel that not wearing any other protection at all is very disrespectful.

Once again only my opinion as it makes me feel safer in this very bad time.

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