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I pose the question ' why are OAP's given priority.???

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:40pm
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This is something I am struggling with, I have read the UK gov web site and the Spanish ones and the WHO, and they dont give an answer.

The question is, why are 70, 80 90 + people being given priority to receive the vaccine?

The only answer seems to be that they are the most venerable in our society. That may be so, but at the ripe old age of 70, 80 90 these people have had their lives, been to work, had kids, holidays, been educated, etc etc. In my opinion surly we should be protecting the younger population first (under 60's), children should be the priority they are our future, not someone of 90. 

This was brought to mind this morning, when in the village I met a young mother that is beside herself, because she cannot get a vaccine for her 2 children, even if she pays, and to crown it all, the school in the village has turned off all the heating and opened all the window's (to blow the virus away) and the children have been told to bring in blankets so they can keep warm.

So what government official had this bright idea, us oldies might remember in the 50's.60's in the UK they had what was called an Open Air School, and anyone with Asthma, TB, Hayfever, anything with a respire infection was sent there, these schools only had 3 walls the 4th was open to the elements the children were taught in their coats, these useless schools were phased out in the 60's, when it was realised that they did more harm than good. Now it looks like Spain has gone back to the dark ages and expecting children to sit in cold classrooms with the windows open with the temperature outside at -1, yesterday.  

Anyway I digress my question is, 'why are OPA's given priority', anyone have any thoughts.

BTW I am in my 70's and would happily give up my vaccine to a person under 60.

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:10pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:10pm

Newsflash! Jenny. People in their 70's, 80's, 90's and older are deemed to be in the danger groups. Of course, they must be looked after asap.

But, you already knew this. Take the vaccine, love it, cherish it and stay alive.

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:10pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:10pm

It’s because, as you say the old are the most vulnerable. If they catch covid their symptoms will be worse and they will take up more beds. Younger people may be able to fight the infection at home, or at least will not fill the ICU wards. Obviously some young people will be badly affected. 

So says my friends who are doctors.

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:33pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:33pm

Matthew wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:10pm:

Newsflash! Jenny. People in their 70's, 80's, 90's and older are deemed to be in the danger groups. Of course, they must be looked after asap.

But, you already knew this. Take the vaccine, love it, cherish it and stay alive.

Disagree Matthew,  we should be taking care of the young population first, not last. they are the worlds future.

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:34pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:34pm

Lmj18 wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:10pm:

It’s because, as you say the old are the most vulnerable. If they catch covid their symptoms will be worse and they will take up more beds. Younger people may be able to fight the infection at home, or at least will not fill the ICU wards. Obviously some young people will be badly affected. 

So says my friends who are doctors....

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OK Lmj, thats a reason that makes sense, thanks for replying.

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:35pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:35pm

Jenni wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:33pm:

Disagree Matthew,  we should be taking care of the young population first, not last. they are the worlds future.

You're all heart, Jenni.

But, I'm sure the authorities have done their homework as to whom is the most deserving. 

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:02pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:02pm

Matthew wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:35pm:

You're all heart, Jenni.

But, I'm sure the authorities have done their homework as to whom is the most deserving. 

LOL, that is so funny, cos my husband is constantly telling me the same thing, you have made his day.

I dont think the UK or Spanish government have done any homework regarding anything, they are all a lot of bunglers. They just do what they think, and then 24hrs later change their mind. no hope!!!!!

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:31pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:31pm

Jenni wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:02pm:

LOL, that is so funny, cos my husband is constantly telling me the same thing, you have made his day.

I dont think the UK or Spanish government have done any homework regarding anything, they are all a lot of bunglers. They just do what they think, and then 24hrs later change their mind. no hope!!!!!

you have to feel sorry for all Governments world wide this virus is something that none of them bargained on and depending on the populations some are more obedient than others so they give advice and get ignored.  the virus loves people who must hug and kiss and meet up when it could be avoided who want to travel around unhindered by something unseen which could kill them,

the older and more vunerable must be protected so they don't block up the medical facilities as if they fall ill they need far more treatment than the younger stronger ones.  if they can then roll out the vaccinations to cover everyone else they might just find a way out and the world can get back on track.

the problem will be that nations that are poor will have the virus around for a lot longer than the rich ones so travel will always have the threat of a continual outbreak somewhere.

the more we can all do to contain it the better for all of us  

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:59pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:59pm

Well said Alicia and Jenni I'm sure your husband and I could share some meaningful conversations. 

Here is something you won't believe but it is true:-

1. Towards the end of November 2020 the daily Covid infection rate in Ireland was around 200 per day. Not bad and we Irish were being quoted by other governments on how to deal with Covid.

2. During the first days of December the Irish government ignored the advice of NPHET (Covid Advisors) and we went from Level 5 to Level 3 ignoring Level 4 just because of commercial pressure.

3. Ireland is not a hugging or kissing nation but we are a fairly warm people. Last week our daily infection rate hovered  between 5000+ and 8000+. We now hold the worst rate of infection per million people in the world, I kid you not. The infection graph is almost as perpendicular as the Apollo moon shots i.e. straight up. If you were reading the graph coldly you would think it was a misinterpretation. 

4. Within 3 weeks the situation here has become dreadful and many of us have remained indoors since. That's how fast and bad Covid can infect. The roll-out of the vaccines in Ireland is pretty slow too, but I can tell you all one thing the second it becomes available, I'll be first in the queue along with my wife. 

5. I want to be around to meet Mr Jenni sometime.

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:28pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:28pm

Perhaps one day Matthew you will, I am a very cynical and no nonsense person, and dont hold sentiment close. So I am fine being told I am all heart LOL!!!   (my animals dont think so)

I am sorry to hear the situation in Ireland is so bad, but glad after watching the BBC news tonight that at last the police are fining people, Gate and horse spring to mind. 

I think that Franco did Spain a service all those years ago, the Spanish (bar very few) are very wary of authority and 'do as they are told', which in this situation has served them well. one day last week, over 1000 people died in the UK in 24hrs in Spain in the same 24hrs it was 135. 

I hope the situation improves in Ireland soon and you manage to get out for some fresh air.

Good wishes.

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