When can UK rejoin the EU? - Page 3

Years after the Referendum we are still exchanging blows on the issues. That says a lot. I believe Brexit was a protest vote that went wrong. Yes it was democratic (what more could you ask for?). Lots of issues got Brexit over the line. There was the Brit expats who voted to leave assuming that might is right, but nobody told the Spaniards. There were the minorities in the UK which used Brexit for their agendas. Anybody who says racism isn't an issue in the UK is merely being naive. 

The fishermen spokespeople who were screaming to leave and negotiate terms later were living in dreamland. The issues regarding AstraVenica rollout were embarrassing. The EU sourced vaccines elsewhere after broken promises by the manufacturer. Rollout of the vaccines in the UK and EU moved pretty fast after. The makers of AstraVeneca were left with much egg on their faces. 

Ireland gained its independence from Britain one hundred years ago this week. It's not a subject that I wish to raise here. I'm merely replying to Stuart's post above. There was no bloodshed when the UK left the EU and there was much bloodshed when Ireland fought for independence. Unfortunately, the bloodshed didn't end there. 

The EU is doing nicely without the UK. And I agree the UK is doing well too. Even Ireland has extra services with new ferries to Spain. We even have people from the UK using the services which is nice to see. Our imports from the UK have dropped by 20%. Our exports to the EU and elsewhere have increased. There is no doubt the UK is losing out on opportunities with the EU. I'm hearing the former colonies of GB will come to the aid of the UK. That remains to be seen. 

My Opinion:- I see the UK applying and getting partial membership of the EU within a few years. The GBP£ will exist alongside the Euro. Later the UK will regain full membership of the EU and soon after the GBP£ will become history. I hope we attain a United States of Europe. 

The last comparative economic figures that I saw were for Q3 2021 which revealed the following.

UK GDP grew by 1.1% compared to the previous quarter

The EU GDP grew by 2.2%

Compared with the pre pandemic peak ,       ( Q3 2021)

UK GDP was 1.5 % lower.

German GDP was 1.1 lower.

Eurozone was 0.3% lower.

There was of course good news in the UK regarding employment but this was not so much based on increased GDP more to do with the displacement of EU workers 

Comparative figures for Q4 2021 may be released shortly which show a different picture. We shall see.

Richard

Just to add my 2 pennyworth,  Firstly I agree with Stuart and AndyMac  10 years down the line, the doubters will all see that it was the right decision to leave, UK will thrive again. its just change once people get use to it the UK will flourish. 

Matthew 'exchanging blows'  you were the one that bought the subject up yet again, me thinks your either bored or just like to stir people up. it says a lot about you, why not let sleeping dogs lie. 

i agree glad we out of EU  best thing we ever did i voted to leave the EU and live in uk and except all that comes with it good and bad we cannot keep voting in/out to suit everyone like any vote there are winners and losers just deal with it

Newsflash! Jenni. This is a public forum where people exchange views, argue, debate etc. It is not a court of law. Like everybody else you and I are entitled to our opinions. This is a forum where we can express ourselves. You creep on by suggesting I let sleeping dogs lie; are you afraid of something? 

oh my god i hope we never go back to EU we are better of out of it if you live in Spain how can you moan about our vote in uk simple you makes your choice cannot have the cake and eat it as well  lets not go back to paying millions and been told what to do by pepole who dont live in uk and have no interest except  there own lets see how long it takes to work out who is keeping up the EU and who are just drawing out cannot wait for another country to leave the EU it be like watching dominos fall

I don't know where you get your figures from Richard and most of us realise that statistics can be made to look provocative and used to proved either side of an argument for example:

CP Index shows UK inflation rate at 5.1% while overall EU inflation rate is 5.2%

Accurate assesment of GDP through a pandemic is difficult.

I'll  go back to my first statement and give one recent example. There have supposed to have been 150,000 Covid deaths in the UK. This calculation is based on people who died within 28 days of testing positive. The office of national statistics released in the last few days that only 13%of these died 'of' Covid and 60 to 80% of these were over 64 years old. All countries have calculated death from Covid in different ways so it is very difficult to assess who did better and who did worse.

Our employment figures, may slightly be due to returning EU nationals but argument could be used over HGV drivers. If all foreign HGV drivers have returned home, then why is there a shortage of them in the EU as well as the EU?

we all make a choice of were we live and have to live according to the country we chose to live in you cannot chose to live in another country then complain about the vote in uk 

What tangible benefits has leaving the EU brought to the UK? 

Yes you can! Have you ever heard of Free Speech?