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Consequences of Brexit

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:02pm
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Now Brexit is upon us and many of it’s inevitable problems are starting to come home to roost I thought it would be a good to start a debate about the advantages of Brexit.

One of the things I have found most amazing about ‘the debate’ so far is how few genuine advantages I’ve come across for leaving. Boris tells us we’ve got back our independence but what does that actually mean? It means Boris making decisions instead the European Union. Is that an advantage??

Clearly there are hundreds of disadvantages examples of which crop up on a daily basis. Only this morning Amazon informed me I could not longer access UK TV contact on my Prime account in Spain.My UK bank won’t provide a service for me after Jan 1st. These are small inconveniences but for the next generation of retirees wanting to see out their days in the sun the potential consequences are life changing. Not to mention the fact that 99% of economists agrees Britains and Europeans will be worse off as a result of Brexit.

Most ‘arguments’ for Brexit (On this forum) seem to revolve around such messages as ‘get a life mate’ or the arrogance of a section of the English who believe that they are superior to the rest of Europe.

I am aware the great British public voted for Brexit but my question is what exactly are the advantages and how will these advantages manifest themselves?? 

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:18pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:18pm

I wait with eager anticipation ... I predict initially it will be “we have our sovereignty back” (which was never actually lost, and in fact some has now been traded away to secure the new trade deal)

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:42pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:42pm

Andy56 wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 4:02pm:

Now Brexit is upon us and many of it’s inevitable problems are starting to come home to roost I thought it would be a good to start a debate about the advantages of Brexit.

One of the things I have found most amazing about ‘the debate’ so far is how few genuine advantages I’ve come across for leaving. Boris tells us we’ve got back our independence but what does that actually mean? It means Boris making decisions instead the European Union. Is that an advanta...

...ge??

Clearly there are hundreds of disadvantages examples of which crop up on a daily basis. Only this morning Amazon informed me I could not longer access UK TV contact on my Prime account in Spain.My UK bank won’t provide a service for me after Jan 1st. These are small inconveniences but for the next generation of retirees wanting to see out their days in the sun the potential consequences are life changing. Not to mention the fact that 99% of economists agrees Britains and Europeans will be worse off as a result of Brexit.

Most ‘arguments’ for Brexit (On this forum) seem to revolve around such messages as ‘get a life mate’ or the arrogance of a section of the English who believe that they are superior to the rest of Europe.

I am aware the great British public voted for Brexit but my question is what exactly are the advantages and how will these advantages manifest themselves?? 

Excellent thread and I look forward to reading the advantages of Brexit.

1. Many Brits have claimed Irish passports on the arrival of Brexit. Great to see more Paddys around. I never realised I had so many "brothers" in Mojacar. If they wish to be Irish they'll have to stop drinking 'alfs though.  

2. The UK will not stand still after 1st January 2021. It will change (inevitable). The EU will not stand still either. It will always be looking to expand.

3. Many of my friends from the senior country of the UK want to be rid of Scotland. Great, it will happen sooner than most think. Wales will take some time longer and England will be landed with bankrolling Northern Ireland. Don't ignore Gibraltar being sought by Spain either. 

4. While most Irish domiciled voted for Brexit (something I can't come to terms with) I fear that racism will become more prevalent in the UK as 2021 progresses. I hope I'm wrong on this, but I'm not.

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:48pm

As a UK Citizen/Resident who voted to Remain, I have come to accept the situation as it is, no point getting wound up by listening to Brexiteers, these type of topics do nothing except churn up bad feeling, we are where we are best to live with the consequences and move on. I used to come to Spain for 5/6 months rent an Apartment (Spending 3K+Euro on rent) Golf for 5 months spending 2KEuro, using shops, bars & restaurants probably another 4KEuro, enjoyng my time trying to mix with all communities, now I might just be able to do that for 3 months in one go, alternatively I'm looking at spending my 5/6 months in Cyprus where they are not part of Shengen Agreement as another possible option, there are no winners in this whole sham.

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:37pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:37pm

Great post, please be aware the responses could get a bit emotional and indeed heated.

The negative affects of Brexit would not fit on this page, so I have as requested listed all the benefits below.

















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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:41pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:41pm

Matthew wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:42pm:

Excellent thread and I look forward to reading the advantages of Brexit.

1. Many Brits have claimed Irish passports on the arrival of Brexit. Great to see more Paddys around. I never realised I had so many "brothers" in Mojacar. If they wish to be Irish they'll have to stop drinking 'alfs though.  ...

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2. The UK will not stand still after 1st January 2021. It will change (inevitable). The EU will not stand still either. It will always be looking to expand.

3. Many of my friends from the senior country of the UK want to be rid of Scotland. Great, it will happen sooner than most think. Wales will take some time longer and England will be landed with bankrolling Northern Ireland. Don't ignore Gibraltar being sought by Spain either. 

4. While most Irish domiciled voted for Brexit (something I can't come to terms with) I fear that racism will become more prevalent in the UK as 2021 progresses. I hope I'm wrong on this, but I'm not.

Gibraltar has already taken that first step.  Joining the Schengen, UK passport holders are now subject to border checks at Gibraltar; Spanish / other EU passport holders are not.

Andy56

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:27am

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:27am

Lmj18 wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:37pm:

Great post, please be aware the responses could get a bit emotional and indeed heated.

The negative affects of Brexit would not fit on this page, so I have as requested listed all the benefits below.

















The only one anyone come up with so far is we’ll get blue passports. 😂

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:43am

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:43am

Andy56 wrote on Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:27am:

The only one anyone come up with so far is we’ll get blue passports. 😂

Printed in Poland by a French company (that bit always makes me howl with laughter)

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:51pm

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:51pm

My impressions from speaking to various people is that the euphoria of Brexit is more to do with intangible things such as being a sovereign state again and not being governed by the European Union.

I hope I am wrong but I doubt whether anyone will see any tangible benefits in the coming years

Richard

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:54pm

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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:54pm

Ah I just love to read all the forum experts, brightens up my day no end.

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