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When can UK rejoin the EU?

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:36pm
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I took the following from a longer post in another forum:-

"I wouldn't say that we are doomed forever though. Keep mind that it was the old generation who mostly voted for this, whilst the youngest voters opted to stay. Soon 6 years will have passed so there will be a noticeable shift in demographics when it comes to EU membership sentiment. Plus the damage done to the economy should convince quite a few people anyway that this has been just a smokescreen to cover up a power grab."

Can someone confirm if there can be another EU referendum within 6 years of the last one?

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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:54pm

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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:54pm

It is most unlikely. The EU is collapsing and becoming more relevant that decision to leave was the correct one.

We will soon get used to the new regulations, the UK will flourish and so will those countries who leave the EU.

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:59pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:59pm

Matthew wrote on Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:36pm:

I took the following from a longer post in another forum:-

"I wouldn't say that we are doomed forever though. Keep mind that it was the old generation who mostly voted for this, whilst the youngest voters opted to stay. Soon 6 years will have passed so there will be a noticeable shift in demographics when it comes to EU membership sentiment. Plus the dam...

...age done to the economy should convince quite a few people anyway that this has been just a smokescreen to cover up a power grab."

Can someone confirm if there can be another EU referendum within 6 years of the last one?

What damage would that be then?  I simply can not believe a non UK resident can still babble on about a democratic vote that occurred in another Country.  Unlike Ireland where they were made to vote again as the EU did not receive the answer it wanted.  BREXIT is done and dusted, get over it, get a life.

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:09pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:09pm

Andymac1951 wrote on Mon Jan 17, 2022 5:59pm:

What damage would that be then?  I simply can not believe a non UK resident can still babble on about a democratic vote that occurred in another Country.  Unlike Ireland where they were made to vote again as the EU did not receive the answer it wanted.  BREXIT is done and dusted, g...

...et over it, get a life.

I have to laugh Andy, they never seem to give up. As the UK grows stronger and the EU weaker they still want us to go back and suffer their pain. It's our money they are after nothing else. The EU is financially bankrupt and poorer without the UK's money.

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:27pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:27pm

Stuart47 wrote on Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:09pm:

I have to laugh Andy, they never seem to give up. As the UK grows stronger and the EU weaker they still want us to go back and suffer their pain. It's our money they are after nothing else. The EU is financially bankrupt and poorer without the UK's money.

I would tend to agree Stuart.  Now living in Spain my greatest concern is for the Spanish Economy, Labour Market and the enormous cost of energy which I am sure will see many millions driven into poverty.

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:23pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:23pm

Andymac1951 wrote on Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:27pm:

I would tend to agree Stuart.  Now living in Spain my greatest concern is for the Spanish Economy, Labour Market and the enormous cost of energy which I am sure will see many millions driven into poverty.

And of course none of this is happening in the U.K.! There’s none as blind as those who will not see.

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:22pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:22pm

Yes, of course there can be Matthew.  All it will take is a government with a modicum of common sense; which could well happen when the current train wreck of a government finishes its ugly implosion.  Already the knives are out for the most corrupt, mendacious and incompetent prime minister ever to disgrace the office.  Labour are currently 14 points ahead of the Tories - the highest gap in well over a decade.  This will not please the Tory power-brokers and BoZo will be gone before much longer.

This will not lead to a sudden and crushing defeat by Labour.  Sadly they are still many many years from being a party of governor ce, but it will start the inexorable move back to closer ties now that Brexit has been shown to be the utter and abject failure it was predicted; supported now only by xenophobes, racists and straight isolationists - or those who have no actual grasp of economic reality.

It won’t even require full EU membership - just common market access, a prerequisite of which is freedom of movement.  Given hardliners seem happy to give FoM to Indian nationals to secure a trade deal significantly worse than what was in place as an EU member, granting FoM shouldn’t be a big ask - except to those who like to scream that everything is the fault of “bullying Brussels”, so displaying an astounding ignorance of the true meaning of sovereignty and the limit of hold Brussels actually has over Member States.

Assertions that the EU is on the decline are equally baseless as even Marine Le Pen has given up her call to take France out of the EU.  A couple of minor players are causing issues, but should they leave, really, like the UK, their leaving would actually strengthen the Union, rather than weaken it.

Like you so Matthew, the dynamic is changing.  A large percentage now perceives that Brexit has not been done “well” - or even at all as they are still trying to change the deal they said was “oven ready” and a “very good deal”

Pragmatists will return after this silly little experiment finally completely fails in a few years and closer ties between UK and EU will return - including, I think most importantly for many here, FoM

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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:38am

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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:38am

The last poll that I saw a month or so ago showed that only 18% of the public thought that Brexit was going well.

Not really a ringing endorsement of the project.

The government will have to show some demonstrable benefits of Brexit in the future  if they are to combat the demographic pressures of rejoining.

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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:49am

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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:49am

1. What I read on the other forum sparked my question.

2. Ms Truss (Tory Remainer) is amongst the front runners to succeed Mr Johnson if he resigns. 

I'm not aware of UK Law regarding reapplying for EU membership hence my question. I feel the UK is on its way back to the EU. I said previously that I don't see this happening in my lifetime, but I could be wrong. Interesting times ahead in the UK.

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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:50am

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Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:50am

PhilBr wrote on Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:23pm:

And of course none of this is happening in the U.K.! There’s none as blind as those who will not see.

Your point being?  So is that the result of BREXIT, the EU Commissioners, the global energy crisis, Mr Putin?

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