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Dgs7272

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:40pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:40pm

DarioMartin wrote on Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:25pm:

Your opinion has much to merit it - a recent poll found that was indeed the case.  

I don’t believe for a moment that those that voted leave were ignorant.  Many had strong nationalistic beliefs and have long desired a UK out of the EU.  Many many more however, were misled by the deceptive leave campaign.  I refer in particular to three things - the £350 millio...

...n a week saved that would go to the NHS (which is why NHS staff have just “received” between a 0% - 1% pay rise, whilst MPs have voted themselves an 11% pay rise); there was the outright lie of the Streams of immigrants waiting to get in; and the nonsense of “regaining control of our borders” .... UK never lost control of their borders - there was ALWAYS passport checks between UK and the rest of Europe.

Unfortunately, these deceptions played well on people’s fears and I suggest a good many voted that fear. 

Once again Dario is rolling out the tired old arguments about why UK voted to leave the EU, this has all been discussed ad nauseam and the answer is always the same. The UK has effectively left the EU. 

Dario is on this forum a great deal, but I ask how can anyone take him seriously when he has said on this forum that he is a follower of a new modern Pagan occult religion called Wicca, introduced in the UK in 1954 by Gerald Gardner, a retired civil servant. This ‘religion’ worships a Great Goddess and a Great Horned God - see Wikipedia. 

Like all religions it is man-made. There are about 4,300 religions in the world, they can’t all be right!

If he follows this ‘religion’ I don't think he is in any position to lecture anyone on what should be believed was right or wrong about the EU Referendum, or anything else for that matter.

Personally, I don’t believe in any ‘higher being’. I think we are born and die, and we should make the best use of the time between.

Dario, please stick to facts in future and not speculate on things that cannot be proved and that you know very little about

DarioMartin

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:54pm

DarioMartin

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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:54pm

Dgs7272 wrote on Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:40pm:

Once again Dario is rolling out the tired old arguments about why UK voted to leave the EU, this has all been discussed ad nauseam and the answer is always the same. The UK has effectively left the EU. 

Dario is on this forum a great deal, but I ask how can anyone take him seriously when he has said on this forum that he is a follower of a new modern Pagan occult religion called Wicca, introduced in the UK in 1954 by Gerald Gardner, a retired civil servant. This ‘religion’ worships a Great G...

...oddess and a Great Horned God - see Wikipedia. 

Like all religions it is man-made. There are about 4,300 religions in the world, they can’t all be right!

If he follows this ‘religion’ I don't think he is in any position to lecture anyone on what should be believed was right or wrong about the EU Referendum, or anything else for that matter.

Personally, I don’t believe in any ‘higher being’. I think we are born and die, and we should make the best use of the time between.

Dario, please stick to facts in future and not speculate on things that cannot be proved and that you know very little about

Oh look ladies and gentlemen, a “free thinker” and so tolerant to boot.  Having no valid arguments itself, it seeks to devalue any information I pass by denigrating me on the grounds of religious belief.

It’s nice to see that you’ve actually managed to read a little about it though since your last faux pas in belittling my beliefs.

Your post has been reported for religious intolerance and bigotry, as well as having nothing at all to do with the subject in hand.

Blessed be )O(

Sue04288

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:49pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:49pm

Dgs7272 wrote on Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:40pm:

Once again Dario is rolling out the tired old arguments about why UK voted to leave the EU, this has all been discussed ad nauseam and the answer is always the same. The UK has effectively left the EU. 

Dario is on this forum a great deal, but I ask how can anyone take him seriously when he has said on this forum that he is a follower of a new modern Pagan occult religion called Wicca, introduced in the UK in 1954 by Gerald Gardner, a retired civil servant. This ‘religion’ worships a Great G...

...oddess and a Great Horned God - see Wikipedia. 

Like all religions it is man-made. There are about 4,300 religions in the world, they can’t all be right!

If he follows this ‘religion’ I don't think he is in any position to lecture anyone on what should be believed was right or wrong about the EU Referendum, or anything else for that matter.

Personally, I don’t believe in any ‘higher being’. I think we are born and die, and we should make the best use of the time between.

Dario, please stick to facts in future and not speculate on things that cannot be proved and that you know very little about

It really is irrelevant as to what Dario's religious beliefs are. I, for one, find his posts both interesting and informative.

Dgs7272

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:14pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:14pm

Sue04288 wrote on Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:49pm:

It really is irrelevant as to what Dario's religious beliefs are. I, for one, find his posts both interesting and informative.

Hi,

I log in now and again, this time to question Dario’s umpteenth repetition of his reasons that Brexit happened; he cannot get over it. 

Now he is trying to ‘cancel’ me - very left wing and only to be expected of Dario. 

I don’t think Dario’s religious beliefs are irrelevant, they inform his ideas and views. 

Bess

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:46pm

Bess

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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:46pm

Sue04288 wrote on Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:49pm:

It really is irrelevant as to what Dario's religious beliefs are. I, for one, find his posts both interesting and informative.

I agree,  very helpful the factual information he posts, his beliefs would be interesting too , like those of the truenudist poster; it  adds to the gaiety of life that we are not all the dull same!   Maybe even original Irish insights would be interesting, (but perhaps fewer opinions) thinking of ther the three main contributors here.

Not sure there is anything new or interesting to say about the rights and wrongs of Brexit.

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DarioMartin

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:02pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:02pm

Bess wrote on Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:46pm:

I agree,  very helpful the factual information he posts, his beliefs would be interesting too , like those of the truenudist poster; it  adds to the gaiety of life that we are not all the dull same!   Maybe even original Irish insights would be interesting, (but perhaps fewer opini...

...ons) thinking of ther the three main contributors here.

Not sure there is anything new or interesting to say about the rights and wrongs of Brexit.

You are right - there is nothing new about Brexit.  It’s done, and we all have to learn to live with it.

The discussions over the rights and wrongs, the merits etc however are far from over and will be continue to be discussed at length here and elsewhere.

Those (Dgs7272) that don’t like the merits of Brexit being challenged would be best to either wise up and realise there is still much discussion to be had - and still motivations to rejoin to be seen - or go live in a cave.

DarioMartin

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:11pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:11pm

Dgs7272 wrote on Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:14pm:

Hi,

I log in now and again, this time to question Dario’s umpteenth repetition of his reasons that Brexit happened; he cannot get over it. 

Now he is trying to ‘cancel’ me - very left wing and only to be expected of Dario. 

I don’t think Dario’s religious beliefs are irrelevant, they inform his ideas and views. 

If I was seeking to “cancel” you, I would have simply blocked you, but I don’t believe in stifling debate.

I reported your post because you try to devalue any and all factual information I may add, plus opinions I may offer on the basis of your own warped and twisted view of my beliefs - something that has nothing to do with what I say.  

You then compound your observed ignorance and try and justify it by saying my beliefs inform on my “ideas and views” - which serves to prove that apart from reading Wikipedia, you know absolutely NOTHING about my beliefs or how they relate to my “ideas and views”, and have only your intolerance, ignorance and outright bias to inform you.

If you can’t see that that is wrong, then you really do have a very serious problem.

Matthew

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:03pm

Matthew

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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:03pm

Dgs7272 wrote on Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:40pm:

Once again Dario is rolling out the tired old arguments about why UK voted to leave the EU, this has all been discussed ad nauseam and the answer is always the same. The UK has effectively left the EU. 

Dario is on this forum a great deal, but I ask how can anyone take him seriously when he has said on this forum that he is a follower of a new modern Pagan occult religion called Wicca, introduced in the UK in 1954 by Gerald Gardner, a retired civil servant. This ‘religion’ worships a Great G...

...oddess and a Great Horned God - see Wikipedia. 

Like all religions it is man-made. There are about 4,300 religions in the world, they can’t all be right!

If he follows this ‘religion’ I don't think he is in any position to lecture anyone on what should be believed was right or wrong about the EU Referendum, or anything else for that matter.

Personally, I don’t believe in any ‘higher being’. I think we are born and die, and we should make the best use of the time between.

Dario, please stick to facts in future and not speculate on things that cannot be proved and that you know very little about

Dgs7272, you've overstepped the mark on this subject. Each person is entitled to his/her beliefs. Nobody has the right to denigrate those beliefs. One's religion is a private matter and most don't need others to criticize. Whatever you believe in or don't believe in is nobody elses business.

Beannie1

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:17pm

Beannie1

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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:17pm

L181SKY wrote on Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:46pm:

So,  if we are no longer EU Citizens. We can apply  for a Long term visa to Reside in Spain for more than 90 days in any 6 month semester.   €60.  A time. Anyone any thoughts on this.   It would be a very similar situation to what we wanted to do anyway.  Stay up t...

...o 6 months and not tax resident.  😎

I don’t know whether anybody actually addressed your original post in this thread, ive read through but lost interest a bit in the infighting and insults, so I thought I would just add for the sake of clarity

The long term visa is specifically to allow residence in spain, not extended stay visits, it is an application for residence in itself. 

See my post today for the latest Spanish govt guidance on the rights of British nationals post Brexit. It really does give some decent and clear advice for what is and is not currently agreed.

DarioMartin

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:36pm

DarioMartin

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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:36pm

Beannie1 wrote on Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:17pm:

I don’t know whether anybody actually addressed your original post in this thread, ive read through but lost interest a bit in the infighting and insults, so I thought I would just add for the sake of clarity

The long term visa is specifically to allow residence in spain, not extended stay visits, it is an application for residence in itself. ...

...

See my post today for the latest Spanish govt guidance on the rights of British nationals post Brexit. It really does give some decent and clear advice for what is and is not currently agreed.

Thanks Beannie1 - I did actually address the meaning of Long Term Visa in my first post on Page 2 of this thread.  Things got a bit sidetracked thereafter 

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