Holiday Season 2021 - Much Hope - Page 2

Jenni wrote on Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:26pm:

Of course your last 2 paragraphs are correct, but I thought that is exactly what I am doing now, I don't call wearing a mask ' living in fear' I call it taking precautions. You would like to see people return to norm as soon as possible, I think I have that right, I am sure you will correct me if...

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... I haven't. and so would I,  but I dont think anyone should be pressured into doing something that they dont feel comfortable with, so if they want to isolate, wear a mask, or wave flags from the top of their roof thats all good by me. I am not someone that follows the crowd, and I dont think people should be made to feel they are holding society back because they choose to take things very very slowly.

I just want to make one point we will never get back to normal if cafe/bar/resturants, dont adhere to the rules, the rules are when in one of these establishments, you are suppost to wear a mask, only to pull it down to put food or drink in your mouth and then to chew or swallow you must put you mask back in place. (yes I know its crazy but its  the law) I can name you several cafe/bars in Albox that openly flaunt that rule, sitting outside no masks in sight and being served. If people like them and the owners of the bars.cafe's stuck to the rules then this pandemic would be over sooner rather than later. So if people loses their businesses and  favourite bars/cafes close for good forever, then they have no one else but to blame but themselves.

rant over!!

Have a good weekend all.

DarioMartin wrote on Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:16pm:

No, I agree, wearing a mask is not what I see as living in fear.  “Living in fear” comes when people stop going out, stop living any semblance of a normal life, shutting themselves away “just in case”

At that point, fear of this virus has taken hold and it now controls them, and getting your life back becomes an uphill struggle because that fear will NEVER go away.  When they once again venture into the world, when someone coughs, sneezes, says they have a headache or a sore throat,  ...

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...;that fear will come right back and control them again.  For people who have succumbed to the control, it will take years, not months for some, to break that conditioning.

The issue you raise about the bars is a conundrum.  Yes, it IS the law to only lower your mask when taking a bite or a sip ... but to what point? What is it supposed to be preventing? Cutting down viral load of anyone around them? In which case won’t they take that viral load in with the drink or the food?  It is a nonsense adjunct to a reasonable law, a knee-jerk reaction by Junta de Andalucia to be seen to be doing SOMETHING.  Albox is not alone.  This particular law is not observed in Vera either.  It’s not observed because the populace recognises it is a nonsense, it is not enforced for the same reason.

Maggiep wrote on Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:15pm:

I totally agree Dario. Isn’t it going against all we’ve been advised to do. We were told DO NOT keep touching your mask or face and now they are saying we must keep pulling it away from our face to eat and drink. Surely we can only do one or the other. I do agree we should wear masks until ou...

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...r food arrives, then remove them finish your drink or meal, then replace when moving away from the table. This seems to be the most sensible thing to do

Matthew wrote on Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:41pm:

Maggie, Facemasks should only be adjusted by touching the tow ropes on each side. The body of the mask should never be touched with your hands. 

hartcjhart wrote on Fri Nov 20, 2020 6:23pm:

I can name you several cafe/bars in Albox that openly flaunt that rule, sitting outside no masks in sight and being served. If people like them and the owners of the bars.cafe's stuck to the rules then this pandemic would be over sooner rather than later. So if people loses their business...

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...es and  favourite bars/cafes close for good forever, then they have no one else but to blame but themselves.

this is one of the biggest problems that we face,people ignoring the rules/advice,until the vaccine has been in place for apx 12mths then people will still be at risk,until that time ONLY THE PEOPLE CAN STOP THIS VIRUS SPREADING, not Government/not Doctors etc,you can have as many lockdowns/tiers etc but if people do not do the right thing then it will roll on,and for those that say they dont know the basic rules stop living under a stone watch the news read the papers etc

my rant over

DarioMartin wrote on Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:16pm:

No, I agree, wearing a mask is not what I see as living in fear.  “Living in fear” comes when people stop going out, stop living any semblance of a normal life, shutting themselves away “just in case”

At that point, fear of this virus has taken hold and it now controls them, and getting your life back becomes an uphill struggle because that fear will NEVER go away.  When they once again venture into the world, when someone coughs, sneezes, says they have a headache or a sore throat,  ...

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...;that fear will come right back and control them again.  For people who have succumbed to the control, it will take years, not months for some, to break that conditioning.

The issue you raise about the bars is a conundrum.  Yes, it IS the law to only lower your mask when taking a bite or a sip ... but to what point? What is it supposed to be preventing? Cutting down viral load of anyone around them? In which case won’t they take that viral load in with the drink or the food?  It is a nonsense adjunct to a reasonable law, a knee-jerk reaction by Junta de Andalucia to be seen to be doing SOMETHING.  Albox is not alone.  This particular law is not observed in Vera either.  It’s not observed because the populace recognises it is a nonsense, it is not enforced for the same reason.

Jenni wrote on Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:22am:

At that point, fear of this virus has taken hold and it now controls them, and getting your life back becomes an uphill struggle because that fear will NEVER go away.  When they once again venture into the world, when someone coughs, sneezes, says they have a headache or a sore throat, ...

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... that fear will come right back and control them again.  For people who have succumbed to the control, it will take years, not months for some, to break that conditioning.

Dario, with regard to the above point you make, you seem to have a very negative view of human's and what they can or cannot deal with, once this virus is under control, people with return to their normal way of life, yes you will have a few people that are still worried, but I would suggest these people probably had anxiety issues before the virus reared its ugly head, and they always will have, but as for the general population  living in fear for the rest of their lives, sorry but I think this is nonsense, us human's are made of stronger stuff (especially the Brits).

Jenni