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DarioMartin

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:08pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:08pm

Jenni wrote on Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:45am:

You 'sigh' after your statement about the vaccine being able to change a DNA.  But from what little knowledge I have I thought that is exactly what recombinant DNA did, recombinant DNA is when 2 different DNA are mixed together either from the same species or different ones, its called Genet...

...ic engineering. It changes the hosts DNA. Once scientists discovered this could be done it was this process that create Insulin to control Diabetes. Of course thats the up side, there I am sure  there are down sides, the thing that worries me about this new vaccine is the speed with which it has been pushed thru, the whole idea of vaccines being tested over long periods of time was to collect data from different ethnic backgrounds, and ages etc and look at the after effects 5 years down the line, i.e. did they grow 2 heads. As far as I can see this new Vaccines has very few of the safe guards from long term research.

Aaaaaaaaaaand you didn’t read the rest.  “Recombinant” in this case does not mean “Recombinant DNA”, which is not normally used in manufacture of Biopharmaceuticals, but recombinant PROTEIN, which is.

Recombinant protein is NOT recombinant DNA. Different beast entirely.

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:04pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:04pm

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:08pm:

Aaaaaaaaaaand you didn’t read the rest.  “Recombinant” in this case does not mean “Recombinant DNA”, which is not normally used in manufacture of Biopharmaceuticals, but recombinant PROTEIN, which is.

Recombinant protein is NOT recombinant DNA. Different beast entirely.

Is it, interesting I stand corrected, I will go back and have another read.

Fresh

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:05am

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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:05am

Dario; i think of the 43,000 odd people on which the virus was tested, 94 developed Covid-19 but only 9 of these were from the vaccinated group, the other 85 were in the control group.  9/94 was the relative effectiveness of the vaccine as reported.

Given your usual meticulousness about scientific papers, I am sure it was a minor mistake.

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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:26am

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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:26am

Fresh wrote on Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:05am:

Dario; i think of the 43,000 odd people on which the virus was tested, 94 developed Covid-19 but only 9 of these were from the vaccinated group, the other 85 were in the control group.  9/94 was the relative effectiveness of the vaccine as reported.

Given your usual meticulousness about scientific papers, I am sure it was a minor mistake....

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Ah-HA - many many thanks for that correction.  I only briefly saw the test results being mangled by someone trying to claim the vaccine had a 0,2% effectiveness and didn't research further.

I have to admit - the constant bombardment on social media of how the vaccine companies are lying about results, about how the vaccine will change your DNA (*snort*), about how Covid is fake, that it's a conspiracy of all governments working together (*BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA*), about how its not a virus but caused by 5G .... it seems the only thing that spreads faster than whatever the hell it is is the utter craziness that comes from the platform social media gives to people .... and those desparate enough or frightened enough or crazy enough to buy into it - then going around saying "WAKE UP PEOPL" ( I HATE that f&%$&/g phrase!!) "DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH" ... without actually "waking up" themselves OR doing their OWN research!!  Apparenbtly if you see a meme on facebook then watch someone with no clue yelling loudly on YouTube ... that's now classed as "research" ..... *sigh* 

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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:58am

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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:58am

They probably dont want to do their own research, they are happy being told what to do when instead of making up their own minds, thats their prerogative surely.  Why do you get so upset at what your read, on facebook and utube, stay off them, I do, cos I know its all gonna be gibberish. Not worth getting upset over. 

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