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Not sure where you get your figures from but they are way way wrong . 58% of halal meat is pre stunned . It is mainly sheep , goats and chicken as obviously no pork required . If your talking numbers it’s the chickens which bulk it up . In theory they are supposed to say a prayer before killing the animal so I can’t really see that happening can you , nothing would get done . It’s a really industrial process . I personally think it is totally wrong the animals suffering should be put before religion . But that’s a topic best left alone . 

Only one animal can be ritually slaughtered at a time and the other animals must not witness any death . The religious law also says how the animal must be treated throughout its life ,with the animal not allowed to be mistreated or caused any pain. It must also be provided with enough space to roam , clean water , food and fresh air . Tell that to a battery hen which make up the bulk of halal chicken . Unfortunately we are called humans perhaps so many of us are inhuman with the cruelty , torture and genocide we inflict on each other never mind animals . That’s better off my chest, now of to check the livestock 

I think what everyone is forgetting , all cultures are different .the differences  in the way we eat , ( different foods) . Language , they way we work. The rules we adhere to . Animals are milly coddled in the uk  because that is the way we do things ( and it does no harm to show affection to any animal) .Spain and many other countries  do not have the same ideals on pets like we do  ( yes I know there is cruelty in the uk too ,  my daughter has a dog in Spain. ( her and her hubby and kids love it ). It is treated as part of the family. Which imo is right when I was a young boy my mother use to have German shepards and she use to breed them , and sell them to the police . I loved those dogs allways have  but I enjoy my freedom now and I do not have to worry we’re I would put a dog if I went away for a weekend , so me and my wife prefer no pets . But to many it’s company and to some it’s all they have , I respect that so I have seen many dogs  and cats ( mostly) neglected in Spain  left by bins ( pups)  in bad condition , there are many British charities for animals  were I am and they do a superb job in finding homes for them . To stop all this Spain needs to round up all the lose dogs and cats  and all should be casterated .. and laws should be brought in that all owners  should be registered .. and those that are not should be fined ..I’ve seen cats with 12 kittens   Running wild , then the same cat having another litter of 6/7 .it’s no good for us or them .. I remember last year a Dalmatian was running wild by we’re I lived , it had a collar on but looked half starved , so I gave it water and food my spanish neighbour said noooo you must not  , it will stay here if you do  she said ..anyway the next day it was gone ..I see no logic in being cruel to any animal , they to have a right to live as best as they can ....

I would answer but you don’t know what you are talking about , and just for your info ,no, i wasn’t talking about that actually. 

Well said.

I could never understand why our U.K. Vets stood by and allowed this in our Country. Shouldn’t we be allowed rules that should be followed just as we have to live by other Countries rules?  It was explained to me how cruel killing a cow the Halal way is . Into a crate, turned upside down ,throat slit and left to die slowly to drain the blood. Usually taking up to 40 minutes! All the while with all the weight on their lungs ,they can’t breathe.  At that time,and for years they, the religious leaders would not allow stunning!     here is what is happening now.

“ Some animals killed for halal meat in the UK are stunned electrically before their throats are slit, known as “pre-stunned slaughter”. ... However, it is forbidden to use methods of stunning that can actually kill the animal, such as bolt guns.”

THAT is awful  

Judging yet again.      I would rather see a dog in a dress than one thrown out of a van in front of a woman in Mojacar who had to take it to the vet.   Today. 

1. I would not condone a dog being thrown out of a van.

2. Neither would I support humans dressing up their dogs in human attire.

Anybody doing either (in my opinion) has some kind of psychological problems.

Come on guys now we are really going off original topic. Is this a chat forum?

James

Just listening dare n,t comment on religous slaughter or hmane killing.

Spell check is fxcked as well just in case "anyone" comments 

We use to live in Cornwall, over looking a field full of lambs, sod's law the minute they were born the wind and rain came, and I just wanted to bring them all in to sit around the fire, and have a cuddle, for some very odd reason my husband said I wasn't allowed.!!