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Gordonalexanderspain

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:47pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:47pm

Andymac wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:39pm:

I am not actually a “resident” for 5 years, under the terms of the application but I assume that they apply the rules on the date you become a “probationary” resident. However if you do not pay tax, and this is becoming more apparent, in more than one country then, as previously stated, I...

... am obliged to complete my tax affairs in the UK first.

I do not care where I pay tax, only that I pay it once.

as soon as you become a probatonary resident that is what we are you do,not  need to be a full time one , you then from that date pay your tax in Spain , along with having a Spanish driving licence 

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:35pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:35pm

Gordonalexanderspain wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:47pm:

as soon as you become a probatonary resident that is what we are you do,not  need to be a full time one , you then from that date pay your tax in Spain , along with having a Spanish driving licence 

Thank you for these comments but as I now understand it, the fact you can only pay tax to one country, that cannot be the case.

On the subject of driving licences that you have just raised, I have checked this previously and I have 6 months but there may be an agreement in the offering for both countries to recognise each other’s as the UK currently accept Spanish driving licences.

There is also the option of obtaining an International driving licence that is valid for 5 years.

Gordonalexanderspain

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:42pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:42pm

Andymac wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:35pm:

Thank you for these comments but as I now understand it, the fact you can only pay tax to one country, that cannot be the case.

On the subject of driving licences that you have just raised, I have checked this previously and I have 6 months but there may be an agreement in the offering for both countries to recognise each other’s as the UK currently accept Spanish driving licences....

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There is also the option of obtaining an International driving licence that is valid for 5 years.

you need a Spanish licence or will be  fines and prosocuted 

Gordonalexanderspain

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:44pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:44pm

Andymac wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:35pm:

Thank you for these comments but as I now understand it, the fact you can only pay tax to one country, that cannot be the case.

On the subject of driving licences that you have just raised, I have checked this previously and I have 6 months but there may be an agreement in the offering for both countries to recognise each other’s as the UK currently accept Spanish driving licences....

...

There is also the option of obtaining an International driving licence that is valid for 5 years.

you still have not said when you got Spanish residencia What Date , that what is important  to you 

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:01am

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:01am

Gordonalexanderspain wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:44pm:

you still have not said when you got Spanish residencia What Date , that what is important  to you 

I actually do not have it yet, please refer to previous posts.

Also the driving licence issue is not as you suggesting, I have various comments on this and I think that if you have been a resident for some time, it may apply but with regard to those just moving here and for the immediate future, you do not need a Spanish driving licence.

There are many websites supporting this BBC etc. However many others.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47459859

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Gordonalexanderspain

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:12am

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:12am

Andymac wrote on Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:01am:

I actually do not have it yet, please refer to previous posts.

Also the driving licence issue is not as you suggesting, I have various comments on this and I think that if you have been a resident for some time, it may apply but with regard to those just moving here and for the immediate future, you do not need a Spanish driving licence....

...

There are many websites supporting this BBC etc. However many others.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47459859

so you are not a Spanish  resident , simply you pay your tax in the UK and the driving licence you will need to seek advice from the UK simple enough

DarioMartin

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:13am

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:13am

Gordonalexanderspain wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:16pm:

if you are a Spanish resident then you pay your tax in Spain, your Spanish accountant will need to find out what country you pay tax to so i would speak to them it might be the UK it might be here , they will clarify this for you, it can be a minefield , but you will not pay tax twice , Spain and...

... the UK are interlinked with Tax so it should not be a problem , just a pain at the moment 

You only pay tax in Spain Andy when you become tax resident i.e. after you have been here the required 183 days.

If there is a tax return already lodged in UK for business income, that is where it will be paid.  Once you become tax resident here, you are obliged to inform HMRC that you are now resident for tax purposes in another country. This helps avoid double taxation.

That being said, getting an accountant to cast an eye over your tax affairs will be crucial.  Agencia Tributaria here are very very uncompromising and very unforgiving. 

With regards driving licence, it used to be that once residency was gained, you had 6 months to change your licence - that was when you had equivalency and could swap.

Now of course you can’t swap, and whilst there may be a period of grace once residency is obtained, I don’t believe it is 6 months as UK licences for residents cease to be valid after 31/10/2021 … your best bet there is to contact DGT and find out directly from them - you should be able to search their website which has an English language facility 

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:21am

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:21am

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:13am:

You only pay tax in Spain Andy when you become tax resident i.e. after you have been here the required 183 days.

If there is a tax return already lodged in UK for business income, that is where it will be paid.  Once you become tax resident here, you are obliged to inform HMRC that you are now resident for tax purposes in another country. This helps avoid double taxation....

...

That being said, getting an accountant to cast an eye over your tax affairs will be crucial.  Agencia Tributaria here are very very uncompromising and very unforgiving. 

With regards driving licence, it used to be that once residency was gained, you had 6 months to change your licence - that was when you had equivalency and could swap.

Now of course you can’t swap, and whilst there may be a period of grace once residency is obtained, I don’t believe it is 6 months as UK licences for residents cease to be valid after 31/10/2021 … your best bet there is to contact DGT and find out directly from them - you should be able to search their website which has an English language facility 

Thanks Dario.

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:45am

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:45am

Gordonalexanderspain wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:46pm:

sorry all income from any where in the world is payable to the Spanish tax man if you are a Spanish resident 

not if it is a Government pension tax paid in UK not Spain

Gordonalexanderspain

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:21pm

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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:21pm

Andymac wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:35pm:

Thank you for these comments but as I now understand it, the fact you can only pay tax to one country, that cannot be the case.

On the subject of driving licences that you have just raised, I have checked this previously and I have 6 months but there may be an agreement in the offering for both countries to recognise each other’s as the UK currently accept Spanish driving licences....

...

There is also the option of obtaining an International driving licence that is valid for 5 years.

regarding the driving licence you have until 31st of October to drive on a UK licence then it has to be a Spanish one if you are a Resident of any kind in Spain

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