Consequences of Brexit - Page 180

Jimh wrote on Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:18am:

Although it is probably of little interest to many on here there has been a move within the Democratic Unionist Party to remove Arlene Foster as its leader and First Minister with a vote of no confidence pending. Whilst I am no fan of Arlene I am concerned in that she actually represents the more...

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... moderate elements of the Party. Remember that this party was founded by the Rev. Ian Paisley with his firebrand politics, long before he became more moderated during the peace process. The DUP are an anti-abortion/anti-homosexuality party with members who are 6 day creationists and a number are flat earth activists. As she is being ousted over anger relating to the Northern Ireland Protocol there is a probability that the DUP will move back to it's extreme Protestant beliefs, Paisley believed dancing was the work of the devil. Ian Paisley Junior is touted as a possible leader so there will no doubt be a standoff with Sinn Fein resulting in the collapse of the Stormont assembly.  Boris Johnson will need to know that he can't give in to the Unionists without giving to the Nationalists unless he is happy for tensions to escalate. This is going to be a Brexit issue that the EU will have difficulty engaging with as the DUP will not trust the EU or the Government in the Irish Republic and they have already had their fingers burned by Boris.

Watch this space!!!

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2021/04/28/news/analysis-who-emerges-as-new-dup-leader-will-send-clear-signal-about-direction-of-regional-politics-over-coming-years-2302559/

Stuart47 wrote on Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:57am:

Andy, it's amazing what some people seem to get upset about debate while constantly been insulting in their own way when it suits. 

I quote Orwell;  

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If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. 

If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”
― George Washington

Jim seems to think switching off thereby censoring other, or listening only to what he wants to hear is winning the debate.

There is nothing insulting in this post.

DarioMartin wrote on Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:36am:

AndyMac1951 wrote on 28 April 2021 at 8:21 am

"Dear Dario, I am not a liar, no need to shout by the way, simply trawl through your many comments on this thread and you will see for your self.  But I’m guessing for you the term ‘Brexshiters’ must be something that rolls easily off the tongue"...

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Well welll well.  I followed your advice and went back through all 181 pages searching for that term.  Here's something interesting ...

The VERY first mention of the term you accuse me of was, in fact ... by YOU on 23 April 2021 at 9:58pm ... when you said "One word - Brexshiters, just go back and revisit you previous comments" (Page 174)

The next mention of that term is again by you on 27 April 2021 at 9:11pm you accuse me, saying "Once again Dario in your most humble of opinions.  Now you of course would never dream of writing anything inflammatory to wind up those pesky 'Brexshitters', as you so often call them." (Page 180)

and finally, again, by YOU on 28 April 2021 at 8:21 am when you said "But I’m guessing for you the term ‘Brexshiters’ must be something that rolls easily off the tongue" (Page 181)

Andy, old chap. the only one chucking that term around with any frequency ... is YOU. I have never actually used it.  Ever.

Gaslighting much? - you know, accusing others of that that you yourself are guilty of. Your mendacity knows no bounds.  Saying "I am not a liar" is just another lie.

Stuart47 wrote on Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:57am:

Andy, it's amazing what some people seem to get upset about debate while constantly been insulting in their own way when it suits. 

I quote Orwell;  

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If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. 

If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”
― George Washington

Jim seems to think switching off thereby censoring other, or listening only to what he wants to hear is winning the debate.

There is nothing insulting in this post.

Andymac1951 wrote on Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:56pm:

Oh dear me, now who is the sad and bitter one?  Yes I mention the word ‘Brexshiters’ when replying to your constant abuse and insults hurled at those who voted leave.  I have never called any one a ‘Brexshiters’ Dario. 

Stuart47 wrote on Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:35am:

Well said Andy, Dario is an offensive and obnoxious little character, with plenty of obvious psychological flaws. I think he was threatening you there. Nasty little man. After an othrer outburst like that, I'm surprised at the support he gets from two others in particular. For me it says a lot ab...

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...out them.

Strong debate is one thing, that outburst from Dario sounded more like shere hate.

Matthew wrote on Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:46pm:

I believe if we thought Arlene Foster was in some way sour towards those other than her own; her successor's malignancy of hate will be feared  deeply. Thanks for nothing Brexit.

DarioMartin wrote on Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:01pm:

What's the likely outcome of this Matthew? 

Matthew wrote on Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:27pm:

Ultimately the likliehood of more unnecessary tit-for-tat killings (more need to pay protection, more drug dealing, more violence, more acrimony etc) - I regret to say and I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

In a short period of time I reckon Arlene Foster will have been looked on as a Snow White compared of what is to come....

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devo49 wrote on Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:59pm:

For Christ’s sake gentlemen grow up and stop this constant nastiness . And don’t come the old boll**** about he said that Miss and pulled my hair Miss . Like school kids . You spoil it for everyone  . Try just reading your own individual posts and be honest with yourselves your all guilt...

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...y . Once again I’m done until some semblance of normal debate or just decent gossip appears .DEV .