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Travelling back to the UK

Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2021 1:42pm
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ejenkins

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Our 90 out of 180 day period will be up on 31st March and with the current movement restrictions in place we are wondering what the options are ...

Can we cite a legal need to travel?

Should we ask permission to extend our stay (or possibly seek forgiveness :-)).

Any thoughts welcome.

Alicia 11

Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2021 3:45pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2021 3:45pm

the extention of time is not an option unless there is a total lockdown.  You can travel back to the UK to your normal residence with proof of travel documents and your covid tests for the journey.  not sure if you can stop over in France though if that is your route but if flying just need your test and tickets. 

ejenkins

Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2021 4:45pm

ejenkins

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Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2021 4:45pm

Alicia 11 wrote on Wed Feb 3, 2021 3:45pm:

the extention of time is not an option unless there is a total lockdown.  You can travel back to the UK to your normal residence with proof of travel documents and your covid tests for the journey.  not sure if you can stop over in France though if that is your route but if flying just ...

...need your test and tickets. 

Many thanks Alicia, much appreciated.

Our original plan was to travel back to Calais but now 1 will fly back and I will travel to Santander for the ferry.

Bulgaria

Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 11:49am

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Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 11:49am

Spain declared a State of Alarm back in October, which is due to run until May 9th 2021.  Extensions have been granted to anyone who finds themselves with a residence permit, long stay visa, or visa free 90 day deadline, expiring.

With regard to the 90 day requirement the wording states "Extension of initial visa-free stay - expiry of the 90-day deadline - Those expiring during the state of alarm are extended for 3 additional months".

My understanding therefore is that if you find yourself unable to leave Spain, and return to your place of residence, you have until early August to make arrangements.  Which lessens the difficulty of trying to find flights or ferries and organising PCR tests.  And more importantly lessens the likelihood of spreading or contracting the virus on your journey.

ejenkins

Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 6:22pm

ejenkins

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Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 6:22pm

Bulgaria wrote on Thu Feb 4, 2021 11:49am:

Spain declared a State of Alarm back in October, which is due to run until May 9th 2021.  Extensions have been granted to anyone who finds themselves with a residence permit, long stay visa, or visa free 90 day deadline, expiring.

With regard to the 90 day requirement the wording states "Extension of initial visa-free stay - expiry of the 90-day deadline - Those expiring during the state of alarm are extended for 3 additional months"....

...

My understanding therefore is that if you find yourself unable to leave Spain, and return to your place of residence, you have until early August to make arrangements.  Which lessens the difficulty of trying to find flights or ferries and organising PCR tests.  And more importantly lessens the likelihood of spreading or contracting the virus on your journey.

Hi,

Many thanks for your response which is very useful and has helped reduce the stress we currently feel :-)

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Alicia 11

Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 6:31pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 6:31pm

ejenkins wrote on Thu Feb 4, 2021 6:22pm:

Hi,

Many thanks for your response which is very useful and has helped reduce the stress we currently feel :-)

glad someone had the right information for you enjoy your time here until you get back safely

Suet357

Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 8:32pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 8:32pm

Bulgaria wrote on Thu Feb 4, 2021 11:49am:

Spain declared a State of Alarm back in October, which is due to run until May 9th 2021.  Extensions have been granted to anyone who finds themselves with a residence permit, long stay visa, or visa free 90 day deadline, expiring.

With regard to the 90 day requirement the wording states "Extension of initial visa-free stay - expiry of the 90-day deadline - Those expiring during the state of alarm are extended for 3 additional months"....

...

My understanding therefore is that if you find yourself unable to leave Spain, and return to your place of residence, you have until early August to make arrangements.  Which lessens the difficulty of trying to find flights or ferries and organising PCR tests.  And more importantly lessens the likelihood of spreading or contracting the virus on your journey.

I wouldnt risk it 90 days is 90 days.... check with the embassy or Guardia if you want to stay longer...dont just stay

ejenkins

Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 9:39pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 9:39pm

Suet357 wrote on Thu Feb 4, 2021 8:32pm:

I wouldnt risk it 90 days is 90 days.... check with the embassy or Guardia if you want to stay longer...dont just stay

I have now found quite a few places containing EU information stating that the Schengen and EU countries now have in place processes to extend the stay of anyone stranded because of Covid movement restrictions, and if fact have been informed just to contact "Mojacars' Councillor for Foreigners"..

As an example I found this informatuion on the Schengen Visa site ...

" ... the guidelines advise the Member Countries not to penalize non-EU travellers who cannot leave the EU on time due to travel restrictions, but rather to prolong their permitted stay in the EU.

“For travellers currently present in the Schengen Area on a short-stay visa who are compelled to stay longer than their visa allows them to, Member States may extend the visa up to a maximum stay of 90 days in any 180 days,” the guidelines read.

At the same time, short-stay visa holders and those travelling visa-free who have to stay beyond 90 days in any 180 days, the Commission recommends granting these travellers with a long-stay visa or a temporary residence permit.

In addition, the Commission asserts that overstays linked to COVID-19 travel restrictions should not be taken into account by the Schengen Members when processing future visa applications.

While some of the Member States, as France and Germany, who have automatically extended visas and period of stay for those unable to leave, others have advised foreigners remaining in their territory to contact the responsible bodies for visa extension. ..."


Rick20

Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 3:10pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 3:10pm

ejenkins wrote on Thu Feb 4, 2021 9:39pm:

I have now found quite a few places containing EU information stating that the Schengen and EU countries now have in place processes to extend the stay of anyone stranded because of Covid movement restrictions, and if fact have been informed just to contact "Mojacars' Councillor for Foreigners"..

As an example I found this informatuion on the Schengen Visa site ......

...

" ... the guidelines advise the Member Countries not to penalize non-EU travellers who cannot leave the EU on time due to travel restrictions, but rather to prolong their permitted stay in the EU.

“For travellers currently present in the Schengen Area on a short-stay visa who are compelled to stay longer than their visa allows them to, Member States may extend the visa up to a maximum stay of 90 days in any 180 days,” the guidelines read.

At the same time, short-stay visa holders and those travelling visa-free who have to stay beyond 90 days in any 180 days, the Commission recommends granting these travellers with a long-stay visa or a temporary residence permit.

In addition, the Commission asserts that overstays linked to COVID-19 travel restrictions should not be taken into account by the Schengen Members when processing future visa applications.

While some of the Member States, as France and Germany, who have automatically extended visas and period of stay for those unable to leave, others have advised foreigners remaining in their territory to contact the responsible bodies for visa extension. ..."


This is very helpful information ...do you know what happens when you drive through France yet?..apart from needing the Covid test, can you just drive direct to Calais or do you have to quarantine somewhere for 7 days after you cross the border?!

ejenkins

Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 5:24pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 5:24pm

I have not checked the position regarding driving through France yet ... which is next on the list :-)

If I find anything worth sharing I will put it on here.

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