Will Rishi Sunak Do Anything to Improve the Life of British Ex Pats in Spain? - Page 78

AndrewS wrote on Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:45am:

Boris was ex prime minister and an MP. He’s gone now so why does this suggest that the party is free falling? They have a new leader who looks like he’s reasonably popular within the party. 

My personal view is that any party would struggle to do well at the moment. Much of the UK problems are as a result of pandemic, Brexit, Ukraine war. People forget that the government spent £400 billion on the pandemic. That’s about £5000 per person. We now have to pay for that. Brexit was a ...

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...disaster that has increased costs, reduced our trading and resulted in many of our essential workers returning to their eu homelands. We have a public health service that is becoming unaffordable (expensive new technology and aging population). Ukraine is fubar and results in the energy crisis.

If anyone on this forum thinks that any political party can solve these challenges overnight they are delusional.

AndrewS wrote on Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:45am:

Boris was ex prime minister and an MP. He’s gone now so why does this suggest that the party is free falling? They have a new leader who looks like he’s reasonably popular within the party. 

My personal view is that any party would struggle to do well at the moment. Much of the UK problems are as a result of pandemic, Brexit, Ukraine war. People forget that the government spent £400 billion on the pandemic. That’s about £5000 per person. We now have to pay for that. Brexit was a ...

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...disaster that has increased costs, reduced our trading and resulted in many of our essential workers returning to their eu homelands. We have a public health service that is becoming unaffordable (expensive new technology and aging population). Ukraine is fubar and results in the energy crisis.

If anyone on this forum thinks that any political party can solve these challenges overnight they are delusional.

AndrewS wrote on Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:45am:

Boris was ex prime minister and an MP. He’s gone now so why does this suggest that the party is free falling? They have a new leader who looks like he’s reasonably popular within the party. 

My personal view is that any party would struggle to do well at the moment. Much of the UK problems are as a result of pandemic, Brexit, Ukraine war. People forget that the government spent £400 billion on the pandemic. That’s about £5000 per person. We now have to pay for that. Brexit was a ...

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...disaster that has increased costs, reduced our trading and resulted in many of our essential workers returning to their eu homelands. We have a public health service that is becoming unaffordable (expensive new technology and aging population). Ukraine is fubar and results in the energy crisis.

If anyone on this forum thinks that any political party can solve these challenges overnight they are delusional.

Jimh wrote on Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:56am:

Whilst there may be some valid points that no party could turn this around quickly let us not forget that it was the Conservatives that negotiated the 'oven ready Brexit deal' and have had 13 years to get the UK to where it is now, which is extremely divided. The pandemic was an expensive exer...

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...cise but think how many Senior Tories lined both their own and their friends pockets with cronyism during the pandemic. Never has one party made so much money for so few at the expense of the NHS and its workers who in real terms are far worse off than they were in 2010.

I do remember the poor taste note in  2010 that the 'Money has all gone' but as it turned out the economy in 2010 was not in as poor a state as we were led to believe and probably in a better state than it is now. As for Sunak rallying the party together I think there is a touch of 'Rose tinted glasses' because a considerable number of the Conservative Party MP's would like to oust the little brown man from office

Matthew wrote on Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:43am:

1. . . . . But wasn't the NHS going to gain so many hundred million pounds per week on Brexit? (as advertised by the Tories)

2. . . . . When the war in Ukraine eventually finishes, does this mean all the UK's problems are over?

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3. Covid-19 hasn't gone away, you know!

4. Now that Boris is "gone" forever out of public service - Is there relevance in this?

5. Does the UK need some kind of EU membership?

AndrewS wrote on Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:45am:

Boris was ex prime minister and an MP. He’s gone now so why does this suggest that the party is free falling? They have a new leader who looks like he’s reasonably popular within the party. 

My personal view is that any party would struggle to do well at the moment. Much of the UK problems are as a result of pandemic, Brexit, Ukraine war. People forget that the government spent £400 billion on the pandemic. That’s about £5000 per person. We now have to pay for that. Brexit was a ...

Read more...

...disaster that has increased costs, reduced our trading and resulted in many of our essential workers returning to their eu homelands. We have a public health service that is becoming unaffordable (expensive new technology and aging population). Ukraine is fubar and results in the energy crisis.

If anyone on this forum thinks that any political party can solve these challenges overnight they are delusional.

Jimh wrote on Sun Jun 18, 2023 9:56am:

Whilst there may be some valid points that no party could turn this around quickly let us not forget that it was the Conservatives that negotiated the 'oven ready Brexit deal' and have had 13 years to get the UK to where it is now, which is extremely divided. The pandemic was an expensive exer...

Read more...

...cise but think how many Senior Tories lined both their own and their friends pockets with cronyism during the pandemic. Never has one party made so much money for so few at the expense of the NHS and its workers who in real terms are far worse off than they were in 2010.

I do remember the poor taste note in  2010 that the 'Money has all gone' but as it turned out the economy in 2010 was not in as poor a state as we were led to believe and probably in a better state than it is now. As for Sunak rallying the party together I think there is a touch of 'Rose tinted glasses' because a considerable number of the Conservative Party MP's would like to oust the little brown man from office

AndrewS wrote on Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:39am:

There was/is no oven ready deal. It was another Boris slogan to calm people down. Let’s not forget there were voices on both sides who canvassed to remain/leave (except Labour who sat on the fence)

Once Brexit was decided it was up to the government of the day to get what they could for the country. It surprises me that people still hold the view that we would get what we want from the EU. Wrong! We had left, we paid the price and will continue to pay for decades. 

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...en five trade deals since Brexit. That’s how long they take to negotiate.

DarioMartin wrote on Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:49am:

No party will turn fortunes around overnight - Tories have done far too much damage with their greed and corruption for that to happen.

They are a party riven though and whilst Sunak is best of a bad bunch, they are still in the process of tearing themselves apart.  They know that save a miracle they are facing wipeout at the next election and the finger pointing and blame-laying has already begun....

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Hopefully a Labour government can at least start the country back on the path to a less economically fraught future