Looks like I am much better off with a German Passport in those cases :)
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:57pm
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raw wrote on Mon Sep 30, 2019 4:17pm:
Looks like I am much better off with a German Passport in those cases :)
Very VERY much so
Most people in the UK have a European/United kingdom passport so don't know how that will work. Will we all have to apply for new passports on the 31st of October...what a mess!
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:36pm
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Paula777 wrote on Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:31pm:
Most people in the UK have a European/United kingdom passport so don't know how that will work. Will we all have to apply for new passports on the 31st of October...what a mess!
Hopefully there will be no need to change EU Member status :-D. That might be a bit of wishful thinking though.
As I understand it, if your EU passport is valid, you will not need to renew until its renewal comes up, at which point you’ll get the old blue passport again.
Until next government puts us straight back IN the EU after a disasterous shambolic Brexit.
An EU citizen can work and live in any other EU country under the 5 Freedoms.
UK are leaving without negotiating a deal, despite years of talks, Mrs May made agreements but they were voted out in Parliament.
The EU are now awaiting a final option from UK.
By the way the Backstop was a UK government suggestion .!
Lastly with reference to the reader who thought that the loss of 360,000. UK citizens, many pensioners, in Spain would damage the Spanish economy..the 513.5 million EU citizens puts that into perspective. Many of whom voted Leave..turkeys and Christmas!!
What will effect Spain and many EU countries far more will be the lack of trade, exports of fresh fruit and veg. regulated meat ..instead of chlorinated chicken from USA where harmful substance bans do not exist.
The difficulty with j"ust in time materials delivery." Effects many industries.
Plus the fact that all 27 bloc countries will have to agree air space as Open Skies only applies to EU members.
The worst of all is the threat to peace after 75 years... and unfortunetly it looks like Britain will be the first to experience civil unrest.
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:49pm
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Indeed - so here’s to a fervent hope that SOMEHOW this sheer insanity can be stopped .....
German passport will allow you the 5 freedoms in the EU.
If UK crash out then they at once become 3rd Country. Boris Johnson appears to want to clean break..forgetting or simply not acknowledging that it will take years to renegotiate all rights. TRAVEL... VISAS WILL BE REQUIRED. OPEN SKIES ETC. STUDENTS , only EU citizens MAY work in EU. Work permits will only be issued if NO EU citizen can be recruited for the position. Some exceptions include Specialist medics, Bio pharmacists, scientists etc.
All negotiations to date have included reciprocal arrangements as a given.
I dont understand how people assume that you can crash out of the EU but think life will just go on as before. Wherever you choose to live.
When Mr Johnson has made it clear that non UK citizens will have to leave.
Wasn't immigration the main reason for leaving? "Not wanting foreigners taking jobs in UK." ....so many nursing staff have already left !!
There has been no grace given to EU citizens in the event of NO deal...it happens on the day! His promise!
I have my eu passport for another 8 years, so will have to see!
No you have that wrong, we are happy to have EU citizens working in the country it's the ones that don't work and claim all the benefits, housing and drain the health system that UK tax payers what a cap on
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:47pm
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Paula777 wrote on Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:26pm:
I have my eu passport for another 8 years, so will have to see!
No you have that wrong, we are happy to have EU citizens working in the country it's the ones that don't work and claim all the benefits, housing and drain the health system that UK tax payers what a cap on
Sadly what you just stated is not based on factual evidence. EU citizens in the UK make a significant net contribution to the U.K. economy, they use fewer state resources pro-rata than U.K. citizens, and bolster the UK economy and public services - and contribute to the national insurance system. It’s not as easy to claim benefits as you suggest. EU citizens don’t get special exemptions and can be deported or removed from the UK if they are unable to support themselves. Just like U.K. citizens living in Spain.
You make a good point there..
I agree and think EU workers are hard workers, if I had a business I would employ eu workers over my own.
That's why I think it will not affect as many people as people think.
Why would we stop good hard workers being here..
I wish it was all over, I'm sick of it all.
I'm embarrassed to be British st the moment
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