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Need information on moving to spain

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:43am
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Barbie1952

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I would really like some information about moving to Spain . Me and my husband had planned to move to almeria area in feb 2022 we are thinking of renting for a year but I am now worried we won’t be able to fulfill our dream of retiring to Spain . Can anyone please help !

DarioMartin

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:47pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:47pm

Thats a fairly broad question, but the easiest answer is try and at least get Residencia before December 2020.  After that, the requirements to obtain residency in Spain become much MUCH more difficult to circumnavigate, aside from the quadrupled income requirement (27.000€ per annum per person income), the actual requirements for maintaining that residency preclude any ability to spend more than 1 accumulated year in a 5 year period outside Spain.  As it stands at the moment, to obtain Residencia you need to only show 9.050 € in a bank account for a partnership or 5.300 € if a single person.  On top of that, you can spend 1 day short of 6 months of the year outside Spain and still maintain Residencia.

Long story short - get in before December 2020 or face the same challenges as anyone else coming from a country outside the EU

Barbie1952

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:53pm

Barbie1952

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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:53pm

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:47pm:

Thats a fairly broad question, but the easiest answer is try and at least get Residencia before December 2020.  After that, the requirements to obtain residency in Spain become much MUCH more difficult to circumnavigate, aside from the quadrupled income requirement (27.000€ per annum per p...

...erson income), the actual requirements for maintaining that residency preclude any ability to spend more than 1 accumulated year in a 5 year period outside Spain.  As it stands at the moment, to obtain Residencia you need to only show 9.050 € in a bank account for a partnership or 5.300 € if a single person.  On top of that, you can spend 1 day short of 6 months of the year outside Spain and still maintain Residencia.

Long story short - get in before December 2020 or face the same challenges as anyone else coming from a country outside the EU

Hi Dario, thanks for your response could I ask where you have got the information from regarding income after this year as I thought no one knew what was going to happen yet . I have been on some information sites and can’t see anything about the money side of things .what happens if you are both retired would it be on our savings do you think ?

DarioMartin

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:09pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:09pm

Barbie1952 wrote on Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:53pm:

Hi Dario, thanks for your response could I ask where you have got the information from regarding income after this year as I thought no one knew what was going to happen yet . I have been on some information sites and can’t see anything about the money side of things .what happens if you are bo...

...th retired would it be on our savings do you think ?

The information on income requirement comes from Extranjeria.  After the end of the transition period, UK nationals will need to enter via the General Immigration Regime and apply not for Residencia, but for a Tarjeta Identificación Extranjero - a foreigners identity card.  In this way UK Nationals will be treated the same as US, Australian, South African nationals.

What nobody really knows at the moment is how those of us who obtained Residencia prior to December 2020 will be processed; whether that be by declaratory system and merely retain green cards, or apply for a “special” TIE that has on it that we are entitled to rights pursuant to Withdrawal Agreement.

But as I said, that is only for those that gain Residency prior to December 2020.  After that date, UK nationals are treated no differently from any other third country national.

Barbie1952

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:16pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:16pm

DarioMartin wrote on Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:09pm:

The information on income requirement comes from Extranjeria.  After the end of the transition period, UK nationals will need to enter via the General Immigration Regime and apply not for Residencia, but for a Tarjeta Identificación Extranjero - a foreigners identity card.  In this way...

... UK Nationals will be treated the same as US, Australian, South African nationals.

What nobody really knows at the moment is how those of us who obtained Residencia prior to December 2020 will be processed; whether that be by declaratory system and merely retain green cards, or apply for a “special” TIE that has on it that we are entitled to rights pursuant to Withdrawal Agreement.

But as I said, that is only for those that gain Residency prior to December 2020.  After that date, UK nationals are treated no differently from any other third country national.

Can you tell me how to apply for residentia and if we could do that if we are are not planning on coming out till beginning of 2022 

Barbie1952

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:17pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:17pm

Barbie1952 wrote on Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:16pm:

Can you tell me how to apply for residentia and if we could do that if we are are not planning on coming out till beginning of 2022 

Do you need to be in Spain to apply ?

DarioMartin

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:40pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:40pm

Barbie1952 wrote on Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:17pm:

Do you need to be in Spain to apply ?

Short answer: until you are resident in Spain, you cannot apply for Residencia.  It’s a fairly straightforward(ish) process, but you MUST be in the country as you have to appear in person and provide a certificado de Empadronimiento to prove you are residing here.

Maz65

Posted: Mon Mar 2, 2020 11:35am

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Posted: Mon Mar 2, 2020 11:35am

Hola 

I'm doing some research on whether it is feasible for me to make a permanent home in Almeria (looking around Mojacar area). Could I please ask for some information: 

Can anyone please give me an idea of the living costs to help with my budgeting. I am a single lady hoping to find a 2 bedroom property so I can have friends/family over (initially renting). 

I love gardening so am torn between an apartment with the added attraction of being near the coast and communal pool or a property with more space in the Campo (I will be bringing my car). How much 'gardening' can I realistically do given the climate? 

Many thanks

Maz 

David505

Posted: Thu Mar 5, 2020 8:47am

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Posted: Thu Mar 5, 2020 8:47am

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:47pm:

Thats a fairly broad question, but the easiest answer is try and at least get Residencia before December 2020.  After that, the requirements to obtain residency in Spain become much MUCH more difficult to circumnavigate, aside from the quadrupled income requirement (27.000€ per annum per p...

...erson income), the actual requirements for maintaining that residency preclude any ability to spend more than 1 accumulated year in a 5 year period outside Spain.  As it stands at the moment, to obtain Residencia you need to only show 9.050 € in a bank account for a partnership or 5.300 € if a single person.  On top of that, you can spend 1 day short of 6 months of the year outside Spain and still maintain Residencia.

Long story short - get in before December 2020 or face the same challenges as anyone else coming from a country outside the EU

Thank you very much for your helpful replies!

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