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Brian007

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:12pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:12pm

Beannie1 wrote on Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:05pm:

Do also think about how you will organise the PCR testing within the timeframe too. It's possible this will change or be withdrawn before you travel, but  it needs to be to be considered

Hi,

Errrrr what is a PCR test? 

Cakey

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:29pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:29pm

Brian007 wrote on Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:12pm:

Hi,

Errrrr what is a PCR test? 

A covid test to be taken no longer than 72 hours before departure. I think I’m correct in saying it’s not required if entering Spain from France across land borders but at present is in force for air or sea travel to spain

hartcjhart

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:03pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:03pm

I forgot to say take a cool box on the ferry with you as the food is either expensive or limited or both and there are microwaves dotted about near the bars,

Having said that on the Finistere on deck 10 is a decently priced food area that do/did an excellent beef bourginon

psy1967

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:05pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:05pm

Brian007 wrote on Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:12pm:

Hi,

Errrrr what is a PCR test? 

Understanding the PCR test is very important to you if you plan to travel by ferry! 

The government have introduced a requirement that anyone arriving by air or by sea to Spain from high risk countries (which includes UK) must have a PCR (swab) test for Covid, which returns a negative result.  The test must be taken not less than 72 hours before you arrive in Spain, and you must show the results to your travel company before commencing the journey.  I have been in conversation with Brittany Ferries about this and they have confirmed to me that you must show the negative result to them before being allowed to board in Portsmouth.  If, like me, you are booked on the Tuesday morning boat, that means that you must take the test not before 2.30pm Sunday and receive the results electronically not later than 7.30am Tuesday.  I have not found anyone offering guaranteed tests within that time frame.  The costs for a test are high, starting at around £120 per person/test, and I have seen £495 for 24-48hr turnaround (even then it isn't absolutely guaranteed).

My conclusion is that it is not possible to take a ferry from Portsmouth to Santander under current conditions.  Brittany Ferries acknowledge the situation but are shrugging their shoulders and saying its not their responsibility.  They currently seem to have no intention of cancelling their ferries which means that if you can't arrange a test within the timeframe then if, like me, you have already booked a crossing all you can do is cancel (it's unlikely you will be entitled to a full refund) or amend your crossing in line with whatever conditions you booked under. Alternatively hope that the UK drops out of high risk status, which is not impossible as it is formula driven.  I can only assume that freight drivers are exempt from the restrictions (they obviously can't catch or spread Covid) otherwise BF would quickly cancel the services due to lack of passengers. 

The test requirement applies to everyone - resident / non-resident, Spanish nationals / foreigners, adults / children / babes-in-arms.  

The British Embassy in Madrid sent me this link to a very useful Q&A document: http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/LONDRES/es/COVID19-UK/Documents/FAQs%20PCR.pdf

It's in Spanish, but you can cut-and-paste it into Google Translate if you want to. 

Alicia 11

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:51pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:51pm

Brian007 wrote on Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:06pm:

Hi,

Thanks for the response, yes I have looked in more detail since I wrote the post and I believe Portsmouth Bilbao or the Eurostar across (under!) the channel may be the way to go.

Very worrying though if they are turning people away who have a reservation!

there are no ferries after Nov 2020 to Bilbao until service resumes in March 2021 so you won't be coming on that boat!  and the Santander ferry is not timed for the Covid test so that's no good either.   Your only options seem to be a ferry to France or the tunnel however, you'll still need a test and then you have to travel through France with the restrictions there.  Good luck you'll need it!

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hartcjhart

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:48pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:48pm

Alicia 11 wrote on Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:51pm:

there are no ferries after Nov 2020 to Bilbao until service resumes in March 2021 so you won't be coming on that boat!  and the Santander ferry is not timed for the Covid test so that's no good either.   Your only options seem to be a ferry to France or the tunnel however, you'll s...

...till need a test and then you have to travel through France with the restrictions there.  Good luck you'll need it!

Hi does that include the new Galicia ferry

psy1967

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:25am

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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:25am

Alicia 11 wrote on Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:51pm:

there are no ferries after Nov 2020 to Bilbao until service resumes in March 2021 so you won't be coming on that boat!  and the Santander ferry is not timed for the Covid test so that's no good either.   Your only options seem to be a ferry to France or the tunnel however, you'll s...

...till need a test and then you have to travel through France with the restrictions there.  Good luck you'll need it!

Currently no test is required by Spain if you travel by land from either Portugal or France.  Currently no test is required by France if you arrive by ferry or Eurotunnel.  But tomorrow, next week, next month...who knows.

psy1967

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:26am

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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:26am

hartcjhart wrote on Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:48pm:

Hi does that include the new Galicia ferry

Galicia will be doing the Santander route, but you have to find a way to meet the PCR test requirement.  If you find a way, I would be keen to hear.

Brian007

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:49am

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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:49am

Alicia 11 wrote on Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:51pm:

there are no ferries after Nov 2020 to Bilbao until service resumes in March 2021 so you won't be coming on that boat!  and the Santander ferry is not timed for the Covid test so that's no good either.   Your only options seem to be a ferry to France or the tunnel however, you'll s...

...till need a test and then you have to travel through France with the restrictions there.  Good luck you'll need it!

Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond.

We have our fingers, and everything else, crossed.

We just need to get over in order to obtain our residency before 31 December!

Many thanks.

Brian007

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:55am

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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:55am

psy1967 wrote on Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:25am:

Currently no test is required by Spain if you travel by land from either Portugal or France.  Currently no test is required by France if you arrive by ferry or Eurotunnel.  But tomorrow, next week, next month...who knows.

Hello,

Well that sounds hopeful. If we can take the train or ferry and drive through France - at least we get there in time to obtain our residency. 

Thanks to everyone for all the very kind replies.

Cheers Brian.

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