Well we are doing our way right or wrong bojo is doing a grand job just in a different way to Spain.
A couple of occurrences on BBC and RTE (Irish national broadcaster) news caught my attention yesterday.
(i) Some supermarkets in London were devoting the 1st hour of business to exclusively allow health care workers shop for whatever they needed. I understand this was to alleviate concerns about shelves being emptied before they could eventually shop later on a normal day. [Healthcare workers must change from their working clothing before entering places like shops - Infection issues and not just those associated with Covid-19]. Therefore, I understand the necessity for such actions of supermarkets during this time.
We received pictures from London with long queues gathering outside a supermarket before it opened. Not only were they not healthcare workers, they failed to observe the self-distancing rules and probably every other rule.
(ii) Here in ROI we were treated to pictures of people crowding to some picturesque tourist spots. They were failing to observe the self-distancing regulations too. Worse again some of these healthy-air seeking cretins were seen crowding around chip vans in anticipation of they thought was healthy food. If you're going to get Covid-19, let's do it with a full stomach.
The good news is:- Mr Johnson and Mr Varadkar will move to ensure these situations should not happen again. I feel the UK and Ireland are getting nearer and nearer to total lock-down like in Spain. More sacrifices are ahead especially for decent people who have observed the guidelines.
But, you cannot ignore the loony mindset of people who won't observe relatively easy guidelines. Do they think that they are wasting a bad pandemic by not making it worse? Is it too much to ask them if they must go out, to maintain a 2 metre distance between people? I wonder if they ever made it to Mastermind what their chosen subject would be before they were asked general knowledge questions. When they arrived at the beauty spots which were filled with people they probably thought they started so they'll finish.
We are hearing news that many schools are being kept open in the UK so that children of health-care workers, police, fire-fighters etc or those who work in what is called essential services. This appears crazy to me - if you close schools all of them should be 100% closed. I reckon Mr Johnson's advisors have got this wrong when all the implications are considered. I think it's time he should consider replacing some of his advisors.
First sunny weekend this year so Snowdonia etc flooded by the retarded. Hope PM introduces draconian measures.
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:51am
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Fresh wrote on Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:40am:
First sunny weekend this year so Snowdonia etc flooded by the retarded. Hope PM introduces draconian measures.
He REALLY needs to do something, and stop sitting on his bloody hands. Yes, he’ll be unpopular. Live with it, that’s the price you pay for leadership - making the unpopular decisions as well as the vote-winning ones. In a crisis, Britain needs a leader, not a bluff, jokey sort of fellow who’s going make it all go away with a cheery smile and a couple of jokes. Leaders in crisis’ have to make unpopular decisions, and I feel that Mr. Johnson just hasn’t reached the point of accepting being unpopular yet.
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Looking at idiots queuing outside a Tesco in their hundreds, or mass sojourns to beauty spots this weekend, or the TomTom congestion index which shows that traffic in London has only reduced by ⅓, I am despairing of many of our fellow human beings. Absolute socially irresponsible morons. Saturday - imbeciles shopping in the Bull Ring in Birmingham (not for food, obviously, probably in the hope of some clothes on sale).
I’ve been a champagne socialist/liberal hand wringer/human rights pusher all my life.
Now, I’d happily pick up a gun and start taking pot shots to get people off the streets.
Just a point of information for me (at least):-
Mr Johnson is taking his main advice from COBRA meetings (per some posters here). Who is in attendance at such meetings?
(I have a reason for asking, but I want to have my facts beforehand).
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:44pm
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Matthew wrote on Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:39pm:
Just a point of information for me (at least):-
Mr Johnson is taking his main advice from COBRA meetings (per some posters here). Who is in attendance at such meetings?
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(I have a reason for asking, but I want to have my facts beforehand).
Cummings and his good friend Dr. Vallance for two, no idea who else
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:14pm
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Martin1958 wrote on Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:15am:
Currently Spain has just over a thousand dead due to virus whilst UK has 177 as at 7pm. Given that there are 20 million more people in UK whilst covering less than a third of Spain’s land area I would say that there will be less deaths in UK than Spain come the end. Not that we should be talkin...
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...g like this. All deaths are regrettable and are someone’s relative who will miss them. They are people not statistics, let us all remember that and good luck and keep safe to one and all
The Imperial College report (20 pages,12 March) by a team of immunologists led by Prof Neil Paterson predicted 250,000 UK deaths if the govt took action to mitigate the spread speed of the virus. And 500,000 deaths if he doesn't. (And 1.2 million US deaths by the way)
That's what spurred the government to start taking the global pandemic more seriously. There will always be one or two that know better but the 1918-19 pandemic, the 'Spanish' flu that began in an army camp in the USA, led to 50 million deaths globally.
Chris
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:23pm
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Fresh wrote on Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:36pm:
Looking at idiots queuing outside a Tesco in their hundreds, or mass sojourns to beauty spots this weekend, or the TomTom congestion index which shows that traffic in London has only reduced by ⅓, I am despairing of many of our fellow human beings. Absolute socially irresponsible morons. ...
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... Saturday - imbeciles shopping in the Bull Ring in Birmingham (not for food, obviously, probably in the hope of some clothes on sale).
I’ve been a champagne socialist/liberal hand wringer/human rights pusher all my life.
Now, I’d happily pick up a gun and start taking pot shots to get people off the streets.
It's a puzzle though. Norman Smith of BBC News, claimed today that 80% of the traffic was missing from the Tube and London main roads. He even suggested the government 'advice not injunction' was working.
Chris
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