Coming to Spain - Page 21

Leo Varadkar (Taoiseach of Ireland) who is doing his job well since the outbreak of the coronavirus and his clarity of the situation and explanations of restrictions were 100% truth and fact based had asked Irish people yesterday to wait before booking a sun holiday in the European  mainland and elsewhere. 

We are nearing an end to the first 3-week period of the recovery phase. It is expected that some items from Phase 3 will be brought forward to Phase 2 which will begin next Monday 8th June.

The Reproduction rate ("R" figure) in Ireland is between 0.4 and 0.7 depending on where you live. 0.7 is still considered too high. Going forward, it is possible that specific parts of ROI will each have a different set of restrictions. We've had some crackpots who broke restrictions advice e.g. a march through Dublin's city centre last weekend in protest against situations in USA. A part of the knock-on effect is that our publicans want the opening of Irish pubs brought forward from August. Pubs with a licence to sell food may open toward the end of June. 

I live in SE Ireland where you couldn't get a more conservative people and the general feeling (my opinion from talking around) is that we've come a long way, handled the situation better than most and now is not the time to take even small risks. Covid-19 is more infectious than the 'flu and can get jump-started by a relatively small number of braindead fools. 

Compared to other countries the Irish contribution to tourism in Spain is small and while I wish I could travel tomorrow, the best decision is to wait and gauge the situation during September (earliest) and perhaps then book flights.

I quite agree (how odd is that) and believe Europeans look to 'staycation' this year.

I would feel safer in Almeria than here in Britain so I will take my chances as soon as I can but  respect an individual right to holiday at home. Let’s hope the weather behaves for those who de die to stay home. 

Andy56 Wrote:

"... Let’s hope the weather behaves for those who de die to stay home."

Freudian slip there Andy? :-D

What happened to spell check 

James 

Whoops!

I’ve spent the afternoon searching properties on the internet so I’m chomping at the bit to get over. 

Health insurance sorted, finances in order. We are ready to go 😃

Well anyway, the news for anyone planning on visiting Spain is that when State of Alarm ends, the wearing of masks and social distancing will still be mandatory.

Draft legislation to this effect has been submitted and I believe will be voted on on Tuesday.  Fines of up to 100€ will be applicable to those who fail to wear a mask in enclosed public places.  The wearing of masks outdoors is still being considered but likely to continue.

The government has announced this measure will continue in force until they can declare Coronavirus is no longer a threat.

With thanks to Chrisso50, have seen this.  I’m going to post it on a couple of the relevant threads:-

For the EU citizen registration ‘green paper’ residence certificate, you need sufficient income. I believe the amounts have just increased as they are based on the minimum income in Spain, which has just increased; see below.  

”I believe it is now about 6,500 € p.a. for a single person; 11,100 € for a couple. If you do not have that amount of income, then savings of those amounts, or assets (say a property) can be used instead. 

[or]

“It has gone up from €7500e to €9000 each or if pensioners the pension requirement has moved from €1000 to €1500 per couple per month (a 50% increase)

“I was assisting as a volunteer translator, when the police told a woman that the property of her female partner of several years, would be accepted as sufficient funds for her. She obtained the registration.

”The requirements for registration are decided by central government so are the same across spain, albeit there might be slight differences in interpretation.“

[not sure that is correct, they do seem to vary from one region to another]

Extract from:

http://www.interior.gob.es/web/servicios-al-ciudadano/extranjeria/ciudadanos-de-la-union-europea/estancia-y-residencia

“The accreditation of the possession of sufficient resources will be made by any means of proof admitted in law, such as property titles, certified checks, supporting documentation for obtaining capital income or credit cards, providing in the latter case an updated bank certification that certifies the amount available as credit of the aforementioned card. The assessment of the sufficiency of means must be carried out individually, and in any case, taking into account the personal and family situation of the applicant. Sufficient accreditation for the fulfillment of this requirement will be considered the possession of resources that are greater than the amount established each year by the General State Budget Law to generate the right to receive a non-contributory benefit, taking into account the personal and family situation of the  interested.”

~

Re minimum income in spain:-

https://www.elmundo.es/economia/2020/06/01/5ed4d1c4fdddff2f0c8b460c.html 

That was a Facebook post by me on my page, quoting a post from someone elsewhere that requires more research ... That post may not be entirely correct - I can't quite believe that the pension income requirement has been increased by 50%, nor that the amount for a couple is almost double that for a single person - but the link to the Spanish government source (in Spanish) is; but I lack the translation power.

Chris

I've come across confusion regarding Borders Opening in Spain for holidaymakers from the UK on facebook and other forums. Some contributors say that on 21st June there may be unrestricted travel between most of Spains regions for people living there and on 1st July most of Spain will open for all UK holidaymakers. 

Months ago I started a thread regarding Holidays in Almeria 2020, but it was deleted (at least, I failed to find it). Does anybody know what is to happen and when?

[For the record the Irish PM has asked intending Irish holidaymakers to Spain to wait until further notice].