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Shay123

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:23am

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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:23am

ChrisP2 wrote on Mon Feb 21, 2022 8:55pm:

I don’t think any enforcement is taking place between San Juan de los Terreros and Aguilas; there are dozens of campers on all the beach parking areas   How can these beaches keep their blue flags when they are being contaminated?

I was there and saw no contamination? Can you explain?

I didn't see any overflowing bins either? Perhaps you could get photos  -please make sure it is the campers who have overflowed the bins too and not farmers or commercial waste? Thanks! :) :)

Great to have the upper case back! :)

ChrisP2

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:33am

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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:33am

Shay123 wrote on Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:23am:

I was there and saw no contamination? Can you explain?

I didn't see any overflowing bins either? Perhaps you could get photos  -please make sure it is the campers who have overflowed the bins too and not farmers or commercial waste? Thanks! :) :)

Great to have the upper case back! :)

Not bind that worry me but where do they dispose of effluent?

Matthew

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:58am

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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 10:58am

ChrisP2 wrote on Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:33am:

Not bind that worry me but where do they dispose of effluent?

There is no great mystery about emptying toilet waste from motor homes. It's a simple case of removing the waste tank (which is not too large and is portable) and emptying its contents into an ordinary toilet (public toilets are ideal for this). It's not a pleasant job, but needs to be done once a week. The tank needs chemical cleaning after each emptying.

. . . . now if we could convince the owners of dogs who allow them to "perform" all over public areas to be as clean; wouldn't it be great?

Bryan

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:37pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:37pm

Nazi Germany  

DarioMartin

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:09pm

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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:09pm

Bryan wrote on Tue Feb 22, 2022 12:37pm:

Nazi Germany  

????

Hate to break it to you, but the war ended a long long time ago.  Germany hasn’t been Nazi since, well 1945.  It’s 2022 now in case you’ve missed it.  Germany has a democratically elected government and everything.  They are even members of European Union - not sure if you’ve heard about that?

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Ray 43

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:11pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:11pm

Matthew wrote on Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:14pm:

What a pity! We've just had our campervan "El Sombrero" serviced and a new television antenna fitted. We were hoping to bring it to Spain during 2022 and drive down the coast from north of Barcelona to Mojacar Playa. We were thinking of stopping off in Palomares for a few days while waiting for t...

...enants to vacate our apartment in Mojacar Playa. I hope La Guardia Civil have decided not to restrict campervan parking in Palomares and I am sorry to hear what is happening in Vera Playa. 

I think the people living in Palomares have always welcomed motor homes to their area. I don't see any reason why this should change.

Campervan owners seem to think they can park where they like, the car parking area at the end of Av. ciudad de castellon leading to the nudist beach often is full of the bigger models parked longways on taking up four and more car spaces and on busy weekends cars wanting to park on the sea front can't because it's full of camper vans, the van site up the road from Dia is often full of vans whose owners are doing the right thing and PAYING to use sight provided for their use a big van with awning and sun loungers etc. takes up a lot of room, you could park your van at your house in Mojacar and drive if you have a car as well or bus or walk to a local beach.

Matthew

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:33pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:33pm

Ray 43 wrote on Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:11pm:

Campervan owners seem to think they can park where they like, the car parking area at the end of Av. ciudad de castellon leading to the nudist beach often is full of the bigger models parked longways on taking up four and more car spaces and on busy weekends cars wanting to park on the sea front ...

...can't because it's full of camper vans, the van site up the road from Dia is often full of vans whose owners are doing the right thing and PAYING to use sight provided for their use a big van with awning and sun loungers etc. takes up a lot of room, you could park your van at your house in Mojacar and drive if you have a car as well or bus or walk to a local beach.

The reason I bought a campervan was to be able to move around and stay in an area more than a few hours. Campervans are not much bigger than cars and we are more conscious of a clean environment that the average motorist who remains sitting in his car while his dogs run freely on the beach. And unlike some motorists we have no problems sharing a car park.

Quite often some motorists share a pot of our coffee or a bottle of good tinto and interact fairly and happily with us. Many who receive the call of nature use the toilet in our campervans. 

Many of us have bicycles too and unfortunately sharing the road with some motorists is risky. Why should I be confined to using our parking space at the apartment or indeed on the curtilage of our house in the mountains a few miles more distant? Like cars, motorhomes have wheels and they are there to be used.

Ray 43

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:20pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:20pm

Matthew wrote on Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:33pm:

The reason I bought a campervan was to be able to move around and stay in an area more than a few hours. Campervans are not much bigger than cars and we are more conscious of a clean environment that the average motorist who remains sitting in his car while his dogs run freely on the beach. And u...

...nlike some motorists we have no problems sharing a car park.

Quite often some motorists share a pot of our coffee or a bottle of good tinto and interact fairly and happily with us. Many who receive the call of nature use the toilet in our campervans. 

Many of us have bicycles too and unfortunately sharing the road with some motorists is risky. Why should I be confined to using our parking space at the apartment or indeed on the curtilage of our house in the mountains a few miles more distant? Like cars, motorhomes have wheels and they are there to be used.

I'm sorry but to say a camper van is'nt much bigger than a car is ridiculous even the small ones take up a full width and stop cars from having a full space either side, I doubt many van owners let car owners use their toilets as you say you do and people sitting in their cars while their dogs run loose? I doubt that happens very often, many of the car owners  at weekends are hard working people who can only afford to run one car and look forward to a trip to the beach to get away from their apartment for a day, with a nice house in the mountains and a nice van if you haven't already got a car why don't you buy one or park your van a hundred plus metres from the sea and away from designated car parking areas like the one I mentioned in my first post.

Matthew

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:00pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:00pm

Ray 43 wrote on Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:20pm:

I'm sorry but to say a camper van is'nt much bigger than a car is ridiculous even the small ones take up a full width and stop cars from having a full space either side, I doubt many van owners let car owners use their toilets as you say you do and people sitting in their cars while their dogs ru...

...n loose? I doubt that happens very often, many of the car owners  at weekends are hard working people who can only afford to run one car and look forward to a trip to the beach to get away from their apartment for a day, with a nice house in the mountains and a nice van if you haven't already got a car why don't you buy one or park your van a hundred plus metres from the sea and away from designated car parking areas like the one I mentioned in my first post.

You're right Ray. The world is large enough for all of us to share everything. If car parks are not fitted out to facilitate campervan owners, then they should be. I'd call it Live and Let Live. You don't use a campervan so you don't know how vanners allow members of the public to enjoy facilities that are not usually around. We Vanners are usually a decent lot. We don't begrudge anybody anything. If you have two cars, three cars or a squadron of Spitfires that's your business not ours. Again it gets back to Live and Let Live. 

We've had two rough years because of Covid and our apartment has amounted much debt and we have had to rent it out this summer to cover costs. But, we don't rely on charity and are doing something towards the costs. It's no big deal to own a house in the mountains. We bought it for a song nearly twenty years ago and it needs lots of repairs and updating and most of the time it is without electricity because of the jack-of-all-trades next door needs the  electricity for his workshop and always forgets to flick the switch so that we can have electricity (we are supposed to share) when we are around. Again, we don't complain as it is how he makes his living. Just a reminder:- Live and Let Live. 

You'll know our van by its livery. We will be in Palomares and feel free to call and together we'll enjoy a good drop of Irish Whiskey together. Later, we can drive to our house in the mountains and you can experience the place yourself and perhaps start to enjoy the free life of a campervanner.

Ray 43

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:52pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:52pm

Matthew wrote on Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:00pm:

You're right Ray. The world is large enough for all of us to share everything. If car parks are not fitted out to facilitate campervan owners, then they should be. I'd call it Live and Let Live. You don't use a campervan so you don't know how vanners allow members of the public to enjoy facilitie...

...s that are not usually around. We Vanners are usually a decent lot. We don't begrudge anybody anything. If you have two cars, three cars or a squadron of Spitfires that's your business not ours. Again it gets back to Live and Let Live. 

We've had two rough years because of Covid and our apartment has amounted much debt and we have had to rent it out this summer to cover costs. But, we don't rely on charity and are doing something towards the costs. It's no big deal to own a house in the mountains. We bought it for a song nearly twenty years ago and it needs lots of repairs and updating and most of the time it is without electricity because of the jack-of-all-trades next door needs the  electricity for his workshop and always forgets to flick the switch so that we can have electricity (we are supposed to share) when we are around. Again, we don't complain as it is how he makes his living. Just a reminder:- Live and Let Live. 

You'll know our van by its livery. We will be in Palomares and feel free to call and together we'll enjoy a good drop of Irish Whiskey together. Later, we can drive to our house in the mountains and you can experience the place yourself and perhaps start to enjoy the free life of a campervanner.

Hi Mathew, You are right car parking areas are not marked out for any larger vehicles and perhaps they should be, but there are plenty of unmarked areas a short walk from the beach area where larger motors can park without taking up 2,3,4 or more car spaces in the marked car areas, I am sure you are an interesting person to talk to and if you let me know how to recognise your van by its livery I will look out for you I am teetotal so your kind offer of a whiskey will be refused, among other things it will be interesting to know what facilities vanners allow members of the public to enjoy, you must think I don't much like campervans you couldn't be more wrong, while driving across the USA many years ago I met several people in their huge mobile homes and fell in love with the idea of living in and touring permanently my wife at the time felt the same but we divorced and my second wife didn't like the idea in fact half an hour in the car is enough for her, so I look forward to  seeing you one day.

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