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Jenni

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:17pm

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L181SKY wrote on Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:19pm:

WOW, So, for good ?   Where are you going xxx

Yes for good, Scotland  we hope,  Highlands.

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 9:01pm

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Jenni wrote on Sun Jul 24, 2022 6:17pm:

Yes for good, Scotland  we hope,  Highlands.

Fabulous. let me know where you are then. must get together xxxx

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:38am

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Jenni wrote on Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:34am:

When we moved here years ago, we went to the town hall, its part of the over all padron, so the town hall gives you the bill quarterly and you go to the bank and pay it. 

But also beware, when we lived in Valencia, we lived there for 3 yrs, for 6 month on and 6 months back in the UK. which in those days was perfectly legal We were told by the  English neighbours that we should register for a padron, so we did..  Jump forward 5 years and we move to Andalu...

...cia, suddenly without any warning the tax office takes 700 euros out of our bank leaving us with 3 euros in there!!! This they say was for back taxes for when we lived in Valencia, because apparently once you register for a Padron, the town hall notify the tax office that you are now residents and therefore should be paying taxes. (non resident tax) Even though we were fiscal residence in the UK and paid all UK taxes.  The tax office eventually admitted their mistake, but  5 years on we are still waiting for the return of the 700e. I am not holding my breath!!

If there is one thing I have learnt here is that its a 3rd world country, more so than Egypt, in Egypt its 'honest' Dishonesty, here its one rule for the Spanish and one for foreigners, especially the Brits now that Bretix is here. My Spanish neighbours do not declare what they earn, they do not pay for a Basura, they keep the minimum in their bank account and do all transactions in cash so that they cant be traced.  If I was staying I would be playing by their rules in future.

Anyway I digress its Sunday, too hot to do very much, so I am prattling on. Have a nice day one and all.

If you own a property you  have to pay the Nob Resident Property tax which is a tax on assume rental income based on castral.

NOT the same as income tax,

Jenni

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:48am

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:48am

Bob2003 wrote on Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:38am:

If you own a property you  have to pay the Nob Resident Property tax which is a tax on assume rental income based on castral.

NOT the same as income tax,

Read what I have written and ' teaching your grandmother to suck eggs' springs to mind

L181SKY

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:34pm

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:34pm

Bob2003 wrote on Mon Jul 25, 2022 11:38am:

If you own a property you  have to pay the Nob Resident Property tax which is a tax on assume rental income based on castral.

NOT the same as income tax,

Hi Bob, was that freudian lol.    also, we weren’t talking about the I.B.I. Bill. We pay the non resident tax. or is it the Nob resident tax 🤷‍♀️

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Alicia 11

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:22pm

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L181SKY wrote on Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:44am:

Thanks Jenni, so , I’ve heard before we shouldn’t be on the Padron at all, and we’ve been on since 2002! I went in and spoke to the townhall in Bedar in March this year and said we shouldn’t be on it as we don’t Live in Spain amd don’t want to be considered resident for tax!  We ...

...were told, no, the tax man won’t charge you residents taxes. So we stayed on as we know the more the merrier.  So, do you mean the Townhall only tells the tax man we are there and “not resident “so then due for Non Resident Tax?  We’ve always paid that anyway every year.  

if you are not a resident of Spain and come and go as a non resident you should not be registered on a Padron at the townhall where you live.  'The more the merrier' is very good but not legal for the numbers that the townhall get their funding from the Junta for.  Basura is paid by anyone who owns a property and as we found out if you don't pay then you get fines on top of the bills going back a way.   

Jenni

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:32pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:32pm

Exactly Alicia

L181SKY

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:30pm

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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:30pm

Alicia 11 wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:22pm:

if you are not a resident of Spain and come and go as a non resident you should not be registered on a Padron at the townhall where you live.  'The more the merrier' is very good but not legal for the numbers that the townhall get their funding from the Junta for.  Basura is paid by any...

...one who owns a property and as we found out if you don't pay then you get fines on top of the bills going back a way.   

Funny that really , we pay for a service , Basura, but our property doesnt count as having to be provided for as in infrastructure !  So, you are correct and the Townhall are wrong ?   Really ?   

juanida

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:59am

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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:59am

L181SKY wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:30pm:

Funny that really , we pay for a service , Basura, but our property doesnt count as having to be provided for as in infrastructure !  So, you are correct and the Townhall are wrong ?   Really ?   

Both may be correct.  In Sorbas, our basura bills come from the Diputacion de Almeria who contract a consortium in Benahdux to pick up our basura twice a week and clean the containers every few weeks.  Some town halls administer this service themselves.  

Alicia 11

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:31am

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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:31am

juanida wrote on Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:59am:

Both may be correct.  In Sorbas, our basura bills come from the Diputacion de Almeria who contract a consortium in Benahdux to pick up our basura twice a week and clean the containers every few weeks.  Some town halls administer this service themselves.  

exactly the basura services may not be provided for by the townhalls and therefore are paid for seperately.  The padron registration is about funding for other services.   

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