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Anyone applied for non lucrative residency 2021 ??

Posted: Sun Jan 3, 2021 7:32pm
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Andy999

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Hello.

I know it’s very early doors , but I would be really interested to know if anyone has applied for non lucrative residency this year , or intends to. In particular if you’re below the UK retirement ages and are just on a private pension. 

Many thanks

Andy 

ErnieR

Posted: Sun Jan 3, 2021 11:56pm

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Posted: Sun Jan 3, 2021 11:56pm

Andy999 wrote on Sun Jan 3, 2021 7:32pm:

Hello.

I know it’s very early doors , but I would be really interested to know if anyone has applied for non lucrative residency this year , or intends to. In particular if you’re below the UK retirement ages and are just on a private pension. 

Many thanks

Andy 

Andy,

I have sent an email to the Spanish Consulate in Edinburgh asking about all the requirements and if the £2190 per month can be demonstrated using savings as well as earnings. I will let you know their reply.

👍

Ernie

Andy999

Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 6:52am

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Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 6:52am

ErnieR wrote on Sun Jan 3, 2021 11:56pm:

Andy,

I have sent an email to the Spanish Consulate in Edinburgh asking about all the requirements and if the £2190 per month can be demonstrated using savings as well as earnings. I will let you know their reply.

👍

Ernie

Hi Ernie

Many thanks 

Andy 

John99andrew

Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 10:16pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 10:16pm

ErnieR wrote on Sun Jan 3, 2021 11:56pm:

Andy,

I have sent an email to the Spanish Consulate in Edinburgh asking about all the requirements and if the £2190 per month can be demonstrated using savings as well as earnings. I will let you know their reply.

👍

Ernie

Not sure what you mean by a none lucrative residencia I did not no there was such a thing, all I thought there where was resident or none resident status

ErnieR

Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 10:45pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 10:45pm

John99andrew wrote on Mon Jan 4, 2021 10:16pm:

Not sure what you mean by a none lucrative residencia I did not no there was such a thing, all I thought there where was resident or none resident status

For those of us not lucky enough to be in a position to move to Spain before 01-01-2021 if we want to stay in Spain longer the 90 days we need to apply for a non lucrative visa. We need to jump through a few hoops. We have prove that we have the means to support ourselves to the tune of £26k for a couple, have no criminal record, no illness that could affect public health and comprehensive health insurance. Another consequence of Brexit for some of us.

Andy999

Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:18pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:18pm

Hi

A non lucrative visa is for people who are generally retired and live on a pension . As opposed to working / studying . 

John99andrew

Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:25pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:25pm

Andy999 wrote on Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:18pm:

Hi

A non lucrative visa is for people who are generally retired and live on a pension . As opposed to working / studying . 

Ha so it is a visa not residency

ErnieR

Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:38pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:38pm

John99andrew wrote on Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:25pm:

Ha so it is a visa not residency

Yes but you need this to live in Spain to allow you to be able to apply for residency. Which we didn’t need to do before Brexit

DarioMartin

Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:42pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:42pm

John99andrew wrote on Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:25pm:

Ha so it is a visa not residency

It’s the “new” method of gaining residency - you now need to apply for a Visa to move to Spain.  If granted, you then make the move and have to apply for the TIE within 30 days of arrival.  Initial Visa is for one year, so when you renew, you have to prove finance etc again, except that renewal is for two years so you need prove you have sufficient finance for two years.  After two years, you renew again, again for two years, again proving finance for two years.  Once you have been here 5 years, you are a permanent resident.

Ernie, it’s not 26K for a couple.  The minimum required is 400% of IPREM for first applicant and IPREM for each dependent.  IPREM is currently 537€ per month so it’s 25.776€ for you and 6.444€ for your partner, so 32.220€ total

At renewal point you have to prove finance for two years, so will need to show a total of 64.440€ available, and same again in two years time.

ErnieR

Posted: Tue Jan 5, 2021 12:18am

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Posted: Tue Jan 5, 2021 12:18am

DarioMartin wrote on Mon Jan 4, 2021 11:42pm:

It’s the “new” method of gaining residency - you now need to apply for a Visa to move to Spain.  If granted, you then make the move and have to apply for the TIE within 30 days of arrival.  Initial Visa is for one year, so when you renew, you have to prove finance etc again, excep...

...t that renewal is for two years so you need prove you have sufficient finance for two years.  After two years, you renew again, again for two years, again proving finance for two years.  Once you have been here 5 years, you are a permanent resident.

Ernie, it’s not 26K for a couple.  The minimum required is 400% of IPREM for first applicant and IPREM for each dependent.  IPREM is currently 537€ per month so it’s 25.776€ for you and 6.444€ for your partner, so 32.220€ total

At renewal point you have to prove finance for two years, so will need to show a total of 64.440€ available, and same again in two years time.

I was using the numbers on the visa application form which states €2200 per month for the first applicant and €550 for each dependant. This works out at €33000 or about £29k on the exchange rate for today. Using the exchange rate on the form it comes out at just over £26k I should have checked the exchange rate before I posted a number. If it is demonstrated by earnings then most retirees will struggle but if it’s demonstrated by savings then a few may be in a better position as a result of lump sums or house sales.

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