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Seafarer

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:03pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:03pm

For updates on the Chicken Factory project proposal, suggest check out www.epra.es and EPRA facebook page. Nothing is set in stone, despite the Junta recently declaring the project as 'favourable'. Nobody from the Junta actually walked up to the site to check it out !! 

There are over 180 local residents who are signed up on the objections petition. An ongoing campaign is in place to stop this project close North of Piedra Amarilla village, led by Eastern Partaloa Residents Association. The local roads are restricted to 3.5tonnes, and there is no road to access plot #132, therefore that alone is a huge barrier to moving 35,000 broiler chickens every 7 weeks the 4.5km to the highway in 20t trucks.  

L181SKY

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:19pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:19pm

Bryan wrote on Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:49pm:

Mmmm 😋 

Chicken 🍗 

lol 😂

L181SKY

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:22pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 8:22pm

Seafarer wrote on Sun Feb 20, 2022 7:03pm:

For updates on the Chicken Factory project proposal, suggest check out www.epra.es and EPRA facebook page. Nothing is set in stone, despite the Junta recently declaring the project as 'favourable'. Nobody from the Junta actually walked up to the site to check it out !! 

There are over 180 local residents who are signed up on the objections petition. An ongoing campaign is in place to stop this project close North of Piedra Amarilla village, led by Eastern Partaloa Residents Association. The local roads are restricted to 3.5tonnes, and there is no road to access ...

...plot #132, therefore that alone is a huge barrier to moving 35,000 broiler chickens every 7 weeks the 4.5km to the highway in 20t trucks.  

There is an outcry against 29m high ,high voltage pylons coming through Protected areas! Some of the prettiest in Spain from Baza to Antas.   It will go ahead .  If the Junta has said favourable, No matter how many people object, it will go ahead. It Is Spain after all.    

L181SKY

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:21pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 10:21pm

Shay123 wrote on Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:39pm:

Your solicitor should be able to tell you immediately if a property is legal or not. Estate agents are increasingly doing the paperwork themselves because it wastes their time. All the details are now online and the fee is something like 6 euros for paying access.

In any event, an 'illegal' property can be rectified. The process to legalise by your solicitor costs between 7 and 8 thousand euros but it is necessary to find if this property is eligible. Some never will be like the 145 million golf complex in Extramedura that has recently been given the final...

... death sentence. Your solicitor can also advise about contacting the authorites because all land / property  is now registered as to its use etc - this same register will tell you if the local area is green or brownland sites. It doesn't take months to find out either. If your agent prevaricates assume the worst. many properties are advertised in multiple agencies and although the first gets a fee the fee can be split beteen agencies, oftne 50:50?

Good luck?

So in one sentence you say In any event it can be rectified!   Then go on to say Some Never Will be!   Contradiction I’m afraid . And Brown or Green !  ?    Do you mean Urbano or Rustic?  what colour  do you have for Protected?   

Shay123

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:22am

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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:22am

Brownfield and greenfield areas are designated names for designated types of land in the UK and ususally marked as such on plans etc.

There is a systeem for legalising many of the illegal properties but not all illegal properties can be sanctified by the process

Simple really

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david 52

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:42am

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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:42am

L181SKY wrote on Fri Feb 18, 2022 11:29am:

Hi Jenni,  I don’t think any of the new people understand the “Spanish way” how could they? Say one thing, do another. Move the goalposts regularly, an awful situation to negotiate.     A leap of faith, oh dear. Well, everyone has to do what they think best. I wonder sometime...

...s if anyone takes advice from people who have more experience. I’m sure like me ,you wouldn’t buy within miles of pigs or goats and now Potential Chickens. If there is ANY question about any animal unit.  I’d Run a mile. Not just the smells, it would be the flies for me, as if it’s not today it will be tomorrow!    After all it’s Always about money. I’d rent every time and do plenty of homework even then ,you can get caught out as you know,we have all heard the horror stories.  You knowing the pig farm is there is very helpful to them.   

Everything you say is so true people just don't seem to understand the Spanish way as you say any kind of farming is a definite no no. 

Jenni

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:11am

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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:11am

Shay123 wrote on Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:22am:

Brownfield and greenfield areas are designated names for designated types of land in the UK and ususally marked as such on plans etc.

There is a systeem for legalising many of the illegal properties but not all illegal properties can be sanctified by the process

Simple really

the term Brownfield and Greenfield isn;t one that is used in Spain, and its Spain we are talking about not the UK here its Rustic or Urban

L181SKY

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:51am

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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:51am

Shay123 wrote on Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:22am:

Brownfield and greenfield areas are designated names for designated types of land in the UK and ususally marked as such on plans etc.

There is a systeem for legalising many of the illegal properties but not all illegal properties can be sanctified by the process

Simple really

I know all of that and indeed not all can be Assimilated not Sanctified. , the System is AFO (Asimilado  fuera de ordination)  But it’s Spain you are speaking about and Brown field sites in U.K. are ex industrial. There is no such name or category in Spain. Green field are obviously countryside,” Campo “in Spain. Rustic or Urbano, as i’ve already said .Your terminology is wrong and doesn’t explain anything as regards Spains planing laws. If you want to advise here you must use terminology that the new people will Hear, then they will know. Sorry, but NOTHING is Simple in Spain,  nothing.   

Jenni

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:23pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:23pm

L181SKY wrote on Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:51am:

I know all of that and indeed not all can be Assimilated not Sanctified. , the System is AFO (Asimilado  fuera de ordination)  But it’s Spain you are speaking about and Brown field sites in U.K. are ex industrial. There is no such name or category in Spain. Green field are obviously c...

...ountryside,” Campo “in Spain. Rustic or Urbano, as i’ve already said .Your terminology is wrong and doesn’t explain anything as regards Spains planing laws. If you want to advise here you must use terminology that the new people will Hear, then they will know. Sorry, but NOTHING is Simple in Spain,  nothing.   

I think we are wasting our breath L181sky, Shay doesn't appear to know what country he is in!!!!!!!

Shay123

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:54pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:54pm

The same system of categorisation is used across Europe and many other countries, the terms are English because surprisingly, we are talking English - maybe? Brownfield sites can be mixed.

Sanctified was joke but clearly missed the by miserable folk?

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