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devo49

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:51pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:51pm

DarioMartin wrote on Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:48am:

I live in Vera-Playa, on the border of Palomares, virtually opposite where Dream Beach is held.  One week of the year it’s insanely noisy, and as SveinB says, around 8 months of the year it’s busy - June / July. / August is insanely busy.

Is Palomares good for retirement? Depends entirely in the retiree.  It’s a very small Agricultural town, lots of different nationalities there - but you’ll not find lawn bowls there.  Lot of Agricultural workers in and around Palomares as you’d expect given the massive amount of c...

...rop-growing land around and about.  It’s not on the beach, but reasonably close to.  A few bars in and around with Monika’s being an English “hub” (the times I’ve visited) and offering a full English Breakfast for 6,50€ - good value.

Vera-Playa is quieter in the winter months with a hell of a lot more holiday homes that are only used for around 4 or 5 months of the year.  A good amount of the hotels in and around the Playa close down in the off season.  If your looking for peace and tranquility, Vera Playa in the off season is the place to get it; also served a wide and varying variety of bars - like the French place at Consum that will charge extortionate prices for admittedly good food, or Antos at Las Buganvillas that has Karaoke every Friday night and serves a mean full Irish breakfast, or Charlestons where you can get an incredible Fish & Chips or a Sunday Roast.  Incredible restaurant.

Personally, I prefer Garrucha, just “up the road” from Vera Playa.  A massive assortment of cafes and restaurants all offering something different, plenty to see and do in the off season and a much MUCH more Spanish flavour than the the Playa or even Palomares … is it a retirement place? If you like apartment living and no parking anywhere … yes.

Mojácar along from Garrucha is split into the Playa and the Pueblo.  The Pueblo is incredibly pretty and sits up in the mountains, the Playa is of course overlooking the sea.  Mojácar is the local Brit concentration with a huge amount of Brit migrants and holiday makers being concentrated in that area, so you’ll get bars and restaurants that reflect that.

But retirement … do you like Golf? Then either Valle Del Este or Desert Springs are your places.  Both have cosmopolitan communities and are built around the golf course.  Desert Sorings appears to have the more expensive properties.

Vera itself is a lovely Pueblo and where I choose to have my business place.  Don’t even think of living in Vera if you can’t speak Spanish.  You’ll be very lonely.

Finally, avoid like the plague any estate agent that tries to sell you a place on the basis of the imminent arrival of the high speed line.  That’s been promised since 2005 and latest now is saying it will be completed by 2025.  I’m not holding my breath. 2035, maybe.

But you’ve not helped yourself; you’ve mentioned you are looking at 10 places without saying what those 10 places are and criticized Matthew for giving some EXTREMELY good advice.  Spain isn’t all Sun, sea and laid back lifestyle. Come here unprepared and you’re in for a shock.  Do yourself a favour and be a little more lenient towards those that freely offer their experience or you will be setting yourself up for a difficult and ultimately miserable time.

Good sound advice . Read and learn . If you ever find an old post from Biggles , he can tell you all about Palomares. I personally like mojacar but mainly September thru to end of May . Summers too hot and too busy . Good luck with your research 

Biggles172

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:21pm

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Hello,I am Biggles 172 and am currently in Mindanao,Phillipines on holiday but in the new year intend to sell my 3 bedroom,two bathroom duplex in Palomares Baja and move here permanently.Very nice place if I say so myself.Should you be interested I have it up for sale on various estate agents sites.Personally I would recommend Zar 2010 and ask to speak to Alphonso.He has the keys to my house there and can give you a conducted tour either in person or by video.I trust him completely as I have dealt with him in the past. 

What can I say about Palomares,love the location but no lover of most of the people who live there.Too many Brits,mostly bored with their lives there who seem to get their kicks by winding up the likes of me.Intially I think because I had a new cabriolet. Ford Mustang and they were green with envy but other things too like they said I had hit the local pro and I have never hit anyone in my life.They just say I pretend to be a flier and just say I am a pilot for effect but I am a PPL holder and an very experienced glider pilot.Waiving my licences at them doesn't seem to convince( they probably never learnt to read anyway)...

Matthew

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:38am

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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:38am

Biggles172 wrote on Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:21pm:

Hello,I am Biggles 172 and am currently in Mindanao,Phillipines on holiday but in the new year intend to sell my 3 bedroom,two bathroom duplex in Palomares Baja and move here permanently.Very nice place if I say so myself.Should you be interested I have it up for sale on various estate agents sit...

...es.Personally I would recommend Zar 2010 and ask to speak to Alphonso.He has the keys to my house there and can give you a conducted tour either in person or by video.I trust him completely as I have dealt with him in the past. 

What can I say about Palomares,love the location but no lover of most of the people who live there.Too many Brits,mostly bored with their lives there who seem to get their kicks by winding up the likes of me.Intially I think because I had a new cabriolet. Ford Mustang and they were green with envy but other things too like they said I had hit the local pro and I have never hit anyone in my life.They just say I pretend to be a flier and just say I am a pilot for effect but I am a PPL holder and an very experienced glider pilot.Waiving my licences at them doesn't seem to convince( they probably never learnt to read anyway)...

Good Man Biggles, You cheered me up. I hope you enjoy the Philippines. 

devo49

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:12pm

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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 5:12pm

Biggles172 wrote on Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:21pm:

Hello,I am Biggles 172 and am currently in Mindanao,Phillipines on holiday but in the new year intend to sell my 3 bedroom,two bathroom duplex in Palomares Baja and move here permanently.Very nice place if I say so myself.Should you be interested I have it up for sale on various estate agents sit...

...es.Personally I would recommend Zar 2010 and ask to speak to Alphonso.He has the keys to my house there and can give you a conducted tour either in person or by video.I trust him completely as I have dealt with him in the past. 

What can I say about Palomares,love the location but no lover of most of the people who live there.Too many Brits,mostly bored with their lives there who seem to get their kicks by winding up the likes of me.Intially I think because I had a new cabriolet. Ford Mustang and they were green with envy but other things too like they said I had hit the local pro and I have never hit anyone in my life.They just say I pretend to be a flier and just say I am a pilot for effect but I am a PPL holder and an very experienced glider pilot.Waiving my licences at them doesn't seem to convince( they probably never learnt to read anyway)...

As always straight from the heart and no punches pulled . Hope the philli goes well . 

cgd

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:12pm

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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:12pm

Alistair young wrote on Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:03pm:

Well I'm not going to get it from you am I?

Alistair, you asked for some advice and you received some. If you don't like it, fair enough, but acknowledge that it was given with food intention. With an attitude like yours, you may struggle to fit in here.

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AndrewS

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:45pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:45pm

Hi, my personal choice for retirement is somewhere quiet and well away from the holiday crowds. So I’d look away from the coast but somewhere that still has accessibility to the usual facilities. I’m still fit and able and drive, which are important considerations because some areas can be remote and have no facilities in easy reach.

Maybe have a look at Turre, Los Gallardos, Bedar too. They are a bit further from the coast, have good accessibility, medical and shopping centres. Personally, I like Garrucha which is very Spanish, busy, and sociable. It does get busy in the summer though.

Alistair young

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:53am

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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:53am

AndrewS wrote on Sat Dec 24, 2022 2:45pm:

Hi, my personal choice for retirement is somewhere quiet and well away from the holiday crowds. So I’d look away from the coast but somewhere that still has accessibility to the usual facilities. I’m still fit and able and drive, which are important considerations because some areas can be re...

...mote and have no facilities in easy reach.

Maybe have a look at Turre, Los Gallardos, Bedar too. They are a bit further from the coast, have good accessibility, medical and shopping centres. Personally, I like Garrucha which is very Spanish, busy, and sociable. It does get busy in the summer though.

Thank you so much and sorry for the wait! I'm looking at all places but thank you for the info and I will check those places out. Although i hoped that Brit passport holders would somehow get a look in as far as visas go there's always a hope!

Alistair young

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:10am

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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:10am

cgd wrote on Fri Dec 23, 2022 7:12pm:

Alistair, you asked for some advice and you received some. If you don't like it, fair enough, but acknowledge that it was given with food intention. With an attitude like yours, you may struggle to fit in here.

Yes I believe so

Alistair young

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:13am

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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:13am

devo49 wrote on Sun Dec 18, 2022 4:51pm:

Good sound advice . Read and learn . If you ever find an old post from Biggles , he can tell you all about Palomares. I personally like mojacar but mainly September thru to end of May . Summers too hot and too busy . Good luck with your research 

Thank you think I'm looking for a place less Brit to put it politely I don't really want to meet know it alls

Alistair young

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:20am

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DarioMartin wrote on Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:48am:

I live in Vera-Playa, on the border of Palomares, virtually opposite where Dream Beach is held.  One week of the year it’s insanely noisy, and as SveinB says, around 8 months of the year it’s busy - June / July. / August is insanely busy.

Is Palomares good for retirement? Depends entirely in the retiree.  It’s a very small Agricultural town, lots of different nationalities there - but you’ll not find lawn bowls there.  Lot of Agricultural workers in and around Palomares as you’d expect given the massive amount of c...

...rop-growing land around and about.  It’s not on the beach, but reasonably close to.  A few bars in and around with Monika’s being an English “hub” (the times I’ve visited) and offering a full English Breakfast for 6,50€ - good value.

Vera-Playa is quieter in the winter months with a hell of a lot more holiday homes that are only used for around 4 or 5 months of the year.  A good amount of the hotels in and around the Playa close down in the off season.  If your looking for peace and tranquility, Vera Playa in the off season is the place to get it; also served a wide and varying variety of bars - like the French place at Consum that will charge extortionate prices for admittedly good food, or Antos at Las Buganvillas that has Karaoke every Friday night and serves a mean full Irish breakfast, or Charlestons where you can get an incredible Fish & Chips or a Sunday Roast.  Incredible restaurant.

Personally, I prefer Garrucha, just “up the road” from Vera Playa.  A massive assortment of cafes and restaurants all offering something different, plenty to see and do in the off season and a much MUCH more Spanish flavour than the the Playa or even Palomares … is it a retirement place? If you like apartment living and no parking anywhere … yes.

Mojácar along from Garrucha is split into the Playa and the Pueblo.  The Pueblo is incredibly pretty and sits up in the mountains, the Playa is of course overlooking the sea.  Mojácar is the local Brit concentration with a huge amount of Brit migrants and holiday makers being concentrated in that area, so you’ll get bars and restaurants that reflect that.

But retirement … do you like Golf? Then either Valle Del Este or Desert Springs are your places.  Both have cosmopolitan communities and are built around the golf course.  Desert Sorings appears to have the more expensive properties.

Vera itself is a lovely Pueblo and where I choose to have my business place.  Don’t even think of living in Vera if you can’t speak Spanish.  You’ll be very lonely.

Finally, avoid like the plague any estate agent that tries to sell you a place on the basis of the imminent arrival of the high speed line.  That’s been promised since 2005 and latest now is saying it will be completed by 2025.  I’m not holding my breath. 2035, maybe.

But you’ve not helped yourself; you’ve mentioned you are looking at 10 places without saying what those 10 places are and criticized Matthew for giving some EXTREMELY good advice.  Spain isn’t all Sun, sea and laid back lifestyle. Come here unprepared and you’re in for a shock.  Do yourself a favour and be a little more lenient towards those that freely offer their experience or you will be setting yourself up for a difficult and ultimately miserable time.

Thanks for the info Palomares probably not for me think I'm better off away from busy places and I'm not particularly a beach person but don't want to be too far away from doing something in the evenings like a large range of bars but realise you either get one or the other busy place Vs quiet place. Thanks again for the info.

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