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DarioMartin

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:15am

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Andy56 wrote on Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:22am:

Thanks you for that. If we don’t make ‘the cut’ at the end of the year because of travel restrictions do you know if the 27000 eu has to be in the form of income? We will have property in Spain to the value of probably 350,000 euros but I draw my pension according to what I need which is le...

...ss than 27000 euros. Would I therefore not be qualified or are there other financial qualification criteria. Hope you don’t mind me picking your brains!

Here the waters are a bit murky because the financial requirements even now vary from province to province.  Some provinces require the 9.050€ per annum to be in the form of income, whereas others require only an annual average bank balance (attested by certificate in Spanish) of 9.050 €

When the transition period ends, as it stands with the law right now, the 27.000 € is required to be shown as annual income, however there has been talk (mostly among expats, it must be noted) of “special rules” being made for UK passport holders who arrive after the transition period .... it is possible that an extension to June 2021 to apply for Residencia may be granted, but I believe you would still need to show you actually arrived and started living in the country before December 31st 2020 (by means of Padrón possibly?)

Andy56

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:06pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:06pm

DarioMartin wrote on Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:15am:

Here the waters are a bit murky because the financial requirements even now vary from province to province.  Some provinces require the 9.050€ per annum to be in the form of income, whereas others require only an annual average bank balance (attested by certificate in Spanish) of 9.050 €

When the transition period ends, as it stands with the law right now, the 27.000 € is required to be shown as annual income, however there has been talk (mostly among expats, it must be noted) of “special rules” being made for UK passport holders who arrive after the transition period .... ...

...it is possible that an extension to June 2021 to apply for Residencia may be granted, but I believe you would still need to show you actually arrived and started living in the country before December 31st 2020 (by means of Padrón possibly?)

To avoid all the turmoil I just hope we can get back to Spain this year and complete the paperwork! Appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. 

Marie52

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:37pm

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Andy56 wrote on Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:01pm:

Hi All

It is my intention to move to Spain permanently with my family and we were ready to start the process of getting our residency application in this Easter. We are currently in the UK and clearly, with the travel restrictions bought on by the Corona Virus we are now in limbo. And with the Conservat...

...ive Government's insistence they will not delay the extension the possibility suddenly looms large that we may not be able to complete our application in time.

Even if we get back to Spain can you imagine the rush to get applications in? The crux of the matter, which most people will be aware of, is that after Britain leaves the UK only those who already have residency here  will be entitled to Spanish healthcare. For everyone else its private insurance which for many would be prohibitively expensive. And for those with pre-existing health problems it may well be impossible to get cover at all.     

Can everyone in this position please write to their MP (particularly if they are Conservative) and ask for their help. Its really important if you want to move to Spain!

I wrote this letter to my MP. Anyone is welcome to cut and paste it if they wish. Your MP will publish their email address on their website.

'It is with alarm and disbelief that I read about your government’s plan not to extend the December deadline for leaving the EU.
Are you aware that many hundreds and probably thousands of people in the UK are planning to make Europe their new home before the December deadline? Because of Coronavirus virus related travel restrictions these people (me and my family included) may be forced to abandon their dreams.
My family and I decided to move to Spain and our plans were to complete all the paperwork this summer. Whether this will now be possible I don’t know.
Can I ask you whether your government will do anything to help people in our position? To be clear, as a member of the EU we will be entitled to health care in Spain for the rest of their lives. Without this safety net we simply cannot go.I know many, many people in the same position and there is real anxiety that the government’s position will cost us dear.I write in hope that my family and others in our position are given some much needed support.'
Thank you for your support and good luck to all who are trying to sort out their move to Spain.
Andy

Hi Andy 

We also hoped to move to Spain before the end of the year.
There is an online petition asking the government to extend the transition and delay negotiations until after the Coronavirus outbreak. 

We have signed but there has to be over 100,000 signatures before the petitions committee will consider it for debate. 

If you haven’t already signed it’s worth a try ?

Kind Regards

Marie 

DarioMartin

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:59pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:59pm

Andy56 wrote on Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:06pm:

To avoid all the turmoil I just hope we can get back to Spain this year and complete the paperwork! Appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. 

A pleasure - I’m sure that you’ll be able to get to Spain at some point this year

Andy56

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:00pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:00pm

Marie52 wrote on Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:37pm:

Hi Andy 

We also hoped to move to Spain before the end of the year.
There is an online petition asking the government to extend the transition and delay negotiations until after the Coronavirus outbreak. 

We have signed but there has to be over 100,000 signatures before the petitions committee will consider it for debate. 

If you haven’t already signed it’s worth a try ?

Kind Regards

Marie 

I will sign it but judging from the complacent response I had from my MP who basically passed to buck to the Spanish Govt I don’t hold out much hope! We may be better appealing to the Spanish Govt for a six month extension. Andy

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Marie52

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:40pm

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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:40pm

Andy56 wrote on Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:00pm:

I will sign it but judging from the complacent response I had from my MP who basically passed to buck to the Spanish Govt I don’t hold out much hope! We may be better appealing to the Spanish Govt for a six month extension. Andy

I agree  it’s just so frustrating but every time I switch on the news I tell myself what are you complaining about ? 

Please let us know if you make any progress 

Anyway back to the jigsaw (coming up to six weeks in lockdown in France)

L181SKY

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:39am

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Andy56 wrote on Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:01pm:

Hi All

It is my intention to move to Spain permanently with my family and we were ready to start the process of getting our residency application in this Easter. We are currently in the UK and clearly, with the travel restrictions bought on by the Corona Virus we are now in limbo. And with the Conservat...

...ive Government's insistence they will not delay the extension the possibility suddenly looms large that we may not be able to complete our application in time.

Even if we get back to Spain can you imagine the rush to get applications in? The crux of the matter, which most people will be aware of, is that after Britain leaves the UK only those who already have residency here  will be entitled to Spanish healthcare. For everyone else its private insurance which for many would be prohibitively expensive. And for those with pre-existing health problems it may well be impossible to get cover at all.     

Can everyone in this position please write to their MP (particularly if they are Conservative) and ask for their help. Its really important if you want to move to Spain!

I wrote this letter to my MP. Anyone is welcome to cut and paste it if they wish. Your MP will publish their email address on their website.

'It is with alarm and disbelief that I read about your government’s plan not to extend the December deadline for leaving the EU.
Are you aware that many hundreds and probably thousands of people in the UK are planning to make Europe their new home before the December deadline? Because of Coronavirus virus related travel restrictions these people (me and my family included) may be forced to abandon their dreams.
My family and I decided to move to Spain and our plans were to complete all the paperwork this summer. Whether this will now be possible I don’t know.
Can I ask you whether your government will do anything to help people in our position? To be clear, as a member of the EU we will be entitled to health care in Spain for the rest of their lives. Without this safety net we simply cannot go.I know many, many people in the same position and there is real anxiety that the government’s position will cost us dear.I write in hope that my family and others in our position are given some much needed support.'
Thank you for your support and good luck to all who are trying to sort out their move to Spain.
Andy

Boris and his government will not ask for an extension.  The EU are entitled to ask for one.    Without adding all my thoughts on this.  Take from it what you will.  

debandrobin

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:04pm

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:04pm

Marie52 wrote on Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:37pm:

Hi Andy 

We also hoped to move to Spain before the end of the year.
There is an online petition asking the government to extend the transition and delay negotiations until after the Coronavirus outbreak. 

We have signed but there has to be over 100,000 signatures before the petitions committee will consider it for debate. 

If you haven’t already signed it’s worth a try ?

Kind Regards

Marie 

Hi Marie, do you have the link for the petition please? Many thanks

Maggiep

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:12pm

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:12pm

Maggiep wrote on Fri Apr 17, 2020 1:43pm:

Thanks Andy.

Email done and sent off to respective MP.

Will keep you posted

Maggie

As expected. Reply from MP saying she isn’t our MP 🙄🙄try another MP. Although the gist of it was ‘Don’t hold your breath ‘ No surprise there then. Same thing when I contacted them about women’s pensions. Passing the book, seems to be the thing in our neck of the woods

Marie52

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:19pm

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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:19pm

debandrobin wrote on Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:04pm:

Hi Marie, do you have the link for the petition please? Many thanks

Hi debandrobin

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300412


Kind Regards

Marie

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