In Praise of Boris Johnson and His Efforts to Overcome Covid-19 - Page 25

david 52 wrote on Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:04am:

Well said l couldn't agree more stop banging on about how bad the UK has handel this. 

Matthew wrote on Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:38am:

So the UK has handled Covid-19 brilliantly?

As of 28th April there have been:-

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21,678 Deaths in the hospital system alone. No accurate records exist for deaths in care homes; no accurate records exist for deaths in the community; no accurate records for those who probably died due to CV-19.

Several posters here have been banging on for weeks that the UK sent the Covid-19 rescue ship miles in the wrong direction. 

Remember the Herd Infection mentality that was instigated weeks ago while some of us here were shouting for Testing, Isolation, Tracing.

Remember the railway platforms full of people brush against each other while they waited to even brush more together on the trains.

London Underground probably caused most infections. People travelled packed like sardines in a tin. We covered that issue weeks ago. 

Suddenly, Mr Johnson gets ill and I'm glad he recovered. It took this to accelerate the Testing, Isolation and somewhat Tracing. He should have listened to us earlier.

Sunday Times Insight Team joins our opinion regarding the delay in challenging Covid-19.

Dr Calderwood (Scotlands Medical Advisor re Covid-19) spends some weekends in her holiday home while she demanded that others should not travel anywhere at all. 

Some sunshine appears and parks in the UK suddenly are populated with people many of which refuse to self-distance by 2mtrs.

Cheltenham Racing Festival with crowds of 70,000 daily was allowed to go ahead.

UK failed to close schools completely thereby ensuring immediate spread of Covid-19.

UK delayed supply of Personal Protection Equipment to many in the NHS.

Remember some of the BBC television news interviews at the start of the outbreak. Dr Goebbels couldn't have made up better.  

"Our own" AndyMac comes to the forum lately and comes up with something like we're not treating like with like. AndyMac is entitled to his opinion but we have always been treating like with like. What other way does he wish the Covid-19 death and infection records to be bent?

. . . and you think the UK has performed well?

Matthew wrote on Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:38am:

So the UK has handled Covid-19 brilliantly?

As of 28th April there have been:-

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21,678 Deaths in the hospital system alone. No accurate records exist for deaths in care homes; no accurate records exist for deaths in the community; no accurate records for those who probably died due to CV-19.

Several posters here have been banging on for weeks that the UK sent the Covid-19 rescue ship miles in the wrong direction. 

Remember the Herd Infection mentality that was instigated weeks ago while some of us here were shouting for Testing, Isolation, Tracing.

Remember the railway platforms full of people brush against each other while they waited to even brush more together on the trains.

London Underground probably caused most infections. People travelled packed like sardines in a tin. We covered that issue weeks ago. 

Suddenly, Mr Johnson gets ill and I'm glad he recovered. It took this to accelerate the Testing, Isolation and somewhat Tracing. He should have listened to us earlier.

Sunday Times Insight Team joins our opinion regarding the delay in challenging Covid-19.

Dr Calderwood (Scotlands Medical Advisor re Covid-19) spends some weekends in her holiday home while she demanded that others should not travel anywhere at all. 

Some sunshine appears and parks in the UK suddenly are populated with people many of which refuse to self-distance by 2mtrs.

Cheltenham Racing Festival with crowds of 70,000 daily was allowed to go ahead.

UK failed to close schools completely thereby ensuring immediate spread of Covid-19.

UK delayed supply of Personal Protection Equipment to many in the NHS.

Remember some of the BBC television news interviews at the start of the outbreak. Dr Goebbels couldn't have made up better.  

"Our own" AndyMac comes to the forum lately and comes up with something like we're not treating like with like. AndyMac is entitled to his opinion but we have always been treating like with like. What other way does he wish the Covid-19 death and infection records to be bent?

. . . and you think the UK has performed well?

david 52 wrote on Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:41am:

Yes exactly very well just the best there is much better than Spain RULE BTITANIA

Matthew wrote on Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:03am:

David, I'm sure you mean Rule Britannia.

AndyMac, I'm talking about the UK and not Sweden, China etc. However, there is much in your post with which I agree.

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. . . and AndyMac, if you were on Who Wants to be a Millionaire? I'm sure you'd win at least £32,000, but David I'm sorry to say you'd exit at the £100 question on using up all your "lifelines"  (but at least I'm giving you credit on getting to the table.

Andymac1951 wrote on Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:24am:

I'd take that.

But just for a wee bit more of a perspective.

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Ireland Land mass 70, 280 sq kilometres, population less than 5 million

London Land Mass 14 300 sq kilometres, population just under 9 million.

So much easier for Irland to control the virus.

Matthew wrote on Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:03am:

David, I'm sure you mean Rule Britannia.

AndyMac, I'm talking about the UK and not Sweden, China etc. However, there is much in your post with which I agree.

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. . . and AndyMac, if you were on Who Wants to be a Millionaire? I'm sure you'd win at least £32,000, but David I'm sorry to say you'd exit at the £100 question on using up all your "lifelines"  (but at least I'm giving you credit on getting to the table.

Matthew wrote on Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:38am:

So the UK has handled Covid-19 brilliantly?

As of 28th April there have been:-

Read more...

21,678 Deaths in the hospital system alone. No accurate records exist for deaths in care homes; no accurate records exist for deaths in the community; no accurate records for those who probably died due to CV-19.

Several posters here have been banging on for weeks that the UK sent the Covid-19 rescue ship miles in the wrong direction. 

Remember the Herd Infection mentality that was instigated weeks ago while some of us here were shouting for Testing, Isolation, Tracing.

Remember the railway platforms full of people brush against each other while they waited to even brush more together on the trains.

London Underground probably caused most infections. People travelled packed like sardines in a tin. We covered that issue weeks ago. 

Suddenly, Mr Johnson gets ill and I'm glad he recovered. It took this to accelerate the Testing, Isolation and somewhat Tracing. He should have listened to us earlier.

Sunday Times Insight Team joins our opinion regarding the delay in challenging Covid-19.

Dr Calderwood (Scotlands Medical Advisor re Covid-19) spends some weekends in her holiday home while she demanded that others should not travel anywhere at all. 

Some sunshine appears and parks in the UK suddenly are populated with people many of which refuse to self-distance by 2mtrs.

Cheltenham Racing Festival with crowds of 70,000 daily was allowed to go ahead.

UK failed to close schools completely thereby ensuring immediate spread of Covid-19.

UK delayed supply of Personal Protection Equipment to many in the NHS.

Remember some of the BBC television news interviews at the start of the outbreak. Dr Goebbels couldn't have made up better.  

"Our own" AndyMac comes to the forum lately and comes up with something like we're not treating like with like. AndyMac is entitled to his opinion but we have always been treating like with like. What other way does he wish the Covid-19 death and infection records to be bent?

. . . and you think the UK has performed well?

Matthew wrote on Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:02pm:

Hi Andy, A fair point if taken only in cold isolation.  But, give us Irish our earned credit. Almost the whole population bought into the fight against Covid-19 from the beginning. We closed our schools, isolated our public transport, restricted our travel, cancelled international rugby matc...

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...hes, closed our pubs, restaurants, hotels, fitness centres, hairdressers, sports shops etc worked from home, volunteered to assist in contact tracing, washed our hands, self-distanced, kept unnecessary pressure off our poorer health system etc. 

Our government/health-service daily briefings carry all the death toll inclusive of hospitals, care-homes, community and even probable CV-19 related. We are getting truth and clarity at all times. Ireland is heading for broke, but like I already said, we've all bought into defeating Covid-19. We'll pay for it in the years ahead, but it's only money. What price a human life?

We don't have a perfect system but our death toll is far below that of the UK even adding in population density etc. Still we don't know if some of our restrictions will be lifted on May 5th. And if they're not, we'll just plod on until things improve.

But, you asked a good question and I give you credit for that.

Cumbres wrote on Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:59pm:

Excellent reply,  but let's face it  there are many British who simply  will not accept any  criticism  of the country they left behind.

Sweden repeatedly clarified that as a sensible,rule abiding population who heeded the social distancing advice , legislation was not necessary....

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Plus 40% of  households in Sweden are SINGLE occupancy.

So any comparison with UK handling of Coronavirus is  just pointless.  

If the initial response was correct, why such a turnaround?  Why fix somethibg that wasn't  broken. 

Sadly the number of infected and dead counter that argument.  

This isn't a game to see who wins. The families of the victims will always lose.

Ireland and UK had the chance to see what worked in countries  affected earlier. We learnt from them. UK chose not to.

Ireland is on lock down 2 km is all we are allowed unnecessary travel. The same in NORTHERN Ireland BUT Hundreds of  people from N.Ireland are driving across the border to holiday homes and beach trips. They know as different jurisdiction our police make them turn back or CANNOT  arrest them if they refuse. 

Do you think this is fair?