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I'm fully jabbed but still got Covid. Do I need a pre departure test if I'm now negative?

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:54pm
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Malcolm2021

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Despite being fully vaccinated I got Covid on the 19th January, however I'm now ok and have obtained 2 negative results. I've checked the Gov.UK website and the Spanish Travel Health (SpTH) website, and am now very confused as to what I need do in order to gain entry into Spain. We both have the NHS Travel pass, albeit that mine was cancelled when I informed them that I had tested positive for Covid, but this was reinstated after I received two negative results!

My wife and I have a holiday home in Mojacar and both have N.I.E numbers and pay the local taxes, so I'm guessing we are not classed as tourists, but neither are we residents and it seems that different rules apply for both categories. Furthermore the "SpTH" website refers to "Risk and High Risk" countries but the UK doesn't seem to appear! I'm hoping this lessens what I may have to do (e.g. a pre departure test), in order to comply with Spanish rules. We are familiar with the Health Control Form having completed it when we were out in Sept'21, but the fact I had Covid seems to have added another layer of issues. Any guidance would be much appreciated. Thank you, Malcolm    

Alicia 11

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:34pm

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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:34pm

you haven't got residencia therefore you are tourists with a holiday home.  you are treated as such by the travel rules and if you have tested negative and gone past the isolation period after contracting Covid then the new rules that now say you don't need a PCR test now apply not sure on the lat flow when you arrive or 2 day isolation period believe that is going soon.

Malcolm2021

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:00am

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:00am

Alicia 11 wrote on Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:34pm:

you haven't got residencia therefore you are tourists with a holiday home.  you are treated as such by the travel rules and if you have tested negative and gone past the isolation period after contracting Covid then the new rules that now say you don't need a PCR test now apply not sure on t...

...he lat flow when you arrive or 2 day isolation period believe that is going soon.

Hi Alicia, many thanks for your prompt reply. I'm not sure if you understood that my concerns are about coming out to Spain as the new rules that were announced today by the UK relate to incoming passengers to the UK.. My apologies if it is me that has misunderstood!!  Below is what is on the UK Gov website :-

If you’ve had COVID-19 in the past year

If you’re travelling to Spain for tourism purposes, you cannot use the UK proof of COVID-19 recovery record certifying that you have recovered from COVID-19 in the last 6 months. See the Spanish Ministry of Health Travel and COVID-19 page for details.

Since a recovery record can no longer be used, I'm hoping that being fully jabbed and having the NHS travel pass will suffice. I cannot see anything on the SpTH website to say otherwise. 

Thanks again for your help.

Regards

Malcolm


Alicia 11

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:39am

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:39am

Malcolm2021 wrote on Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:00am:

Hi Alicia, many thanks for your prompt reply. I'm not sure if you understood that my concerns are about coming out to Spain as the new rules that were announced today by the UK relate to incoming passengers to the UK.. My apologies if it is me that has misunderstood!!  Below is what is on th...

...e UK Gov website :-

If you’ve had COVID-19 in the past year

If you’re travelling to Spain for tourism purposes, you cannot use the UK proof of COVID-19 recovery record certifying that you have recovered from COVID-19 in the last 6 months. See the Spanish Ministry of Health Travel and COVID-19 page for details.

Since a recovery record can no longer be used, I'm hoping that being fully jabbed and having the NHS travel pass will suffice. I cannot see anything on the SpTH website to say otherwise. 

Thanks again for your help.

Regards

Malcolm


hi Malcolm ok as I understand it if you are fully jabbed and boosted you can travel without any problems so bring some nice weather with you when you come as it is horrible here at the moment!

AW9940

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:03am

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:03am

Hi Malcolm, I believe you are classed as a 'Habitual Resident'. not tourist. 

Malcolm2021

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:12pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:12pm

Alicia 11 wrote on Tue Jan 25, 2022 9:39am:

hi Malcolm ok as I understand it if you are fully jabbed and boosted you can travel without any problems so bring some nice weather with you when you come as it is horrible here at the moment!

Hi Alicia, thanks for that. Given the weather here in Kent I'm not sure I can promise any nice weather, but I'll see what I can do!!  

Malcolm2021

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:17pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:17pm

AW9940 wrote on Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:03am:

Hi Malcolm, I believe you are classed as a 'Habitual Resident'. not tourist. 

Hi AW9940, well I never new that, it sound like a medical condition :-)

Thanks

Malcolm

    

Yorkie02

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:40am

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:40am

I thought the clot shot jabs were meant to protect you from Covid?? Think you would be wise to independently research the issue.

DarioMartin

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:42pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:42pm

AW9940 wrote on Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:03am:

Hi Malcolm, I believe you are classed as a 'Habitual Resident'. not tourist. 

“Habitual resident” is just a polite term for someone who spends a maximum of 90 days here.  It has no standing and in terms of tax, non-residents tax etc still applies.

There’s no halfway point - you either are a resident or you are not.

AW9940

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:53pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:53pm

DarioMartin wrote on Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:42pm:

“Habitual resident” is just a polite term for someone who spends a maximum of 90 days here.  It has no standing and in terms of tax, non-residents tax etc still applies.

There’s no halfway point - you either are a resident or you are not.

Of course, but you have more access to visit Spain than a tourist. Who has no stake there. 

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