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Ian 77

Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 11:54am

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 11:54am

chrisso50 wrote on Tue Aug 4, 2020 10:44am:

"No one knows what will happen after we eventually leave in Dec 2020, the pensions are being talked about as I speak  there will be changes imo .. and because of this Covid  virus  every county will be looking at ways of not spending or giving much away ... nobody knows yet we all ...

...have to wait and see..."

Actually we do. The 2019 Withdrawal Agreement covered pension and health arrangements. As long as you are here and apply for residency by 31 December nothing will change.

We do not have to 'wait and see'. All this is explained here:
*UK embassy site in Spain
*Brexpats in Spain Facebook site
*UK Govt website

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You should know as well as I do the goverment can and will if they see fit to change it all... which is why I said wait and see , the way things are at the moment anything can happen. 

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 12:07pm

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Ian 77 wrote on Tue Aug 4, 2020 11:54am:

You should know as well as I do the goverment can and will if they see fit to change it all... which is why I said wait and see , the way things are at the moment anything can happen. 

That’s very bad advice to anyone wanting to move here.

Get here before 31/12 or lose out.

chrisso50

Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 12:25pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 12:25pm

Ian 77 wrote on Tue Aug 4, 2020 11:54am:

You should know as well as I do the goverment can and will if they see fit to change it all... which is why I said wait and see , the way things are at the moment anything can happen. 

I do know - and No it can't. The Withdrawal Agreement between the UK and the EU is an international treaty obligation. The UK left the EU (on 31 Jan 2020) but retained pensions and health obligations for those that move to Spain before 31 December - and obtain legal residence status.

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 2:38pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 2:38pm

chrisso50 wrote on Tue Aug 4, 2020 12:25pm:

I do know - and No it can't. The Withdrawal Agreement between the UK and the EU is an international treaty obligation. The UK left the EU (on 31 Jan 2020) but retained pensions and health obligations for those that move to Spain before 31 December - and obtain legal residence status.

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As I have said we will see the words never,, say never come to mind ...

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 2:42pm

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Ian 77 wrote on Tue Aug 4, 2020 2:38pm:

As I have said we will see the words never,, say never come to mind ...

As do the words “there are none so blind as those that will not see”

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 8:40pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 8:40pm

DarioMartin wrote on Tue Aug 4, 2020 2:42pm:

As do the words “there are none so blind as those that will not see”

Yes words  of stevie wonder and Roy Orbison. ... if only 

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 8:56pm

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Ian 77 wrote on Tue Aug 4, 2020 8:40pm:

Yes words  of stevie wonder and Roy Orbison. ... if only 

1st January 2021, you’ll look back on this and realise just how wrong you were.

And if you’re trying to draw lame comparisons (knowing full well that neither Stevie Wonder nor Roy Orbison ever actually used that phrase in any song), let’s look at “Never say never” - part of the title of a James Bond movie (a fictional character), and not directed by the Broccoli family and therefore not even regarded as a “real” James Bond movie - named because Sean Connery said “I’ll never play James Bond again” 

So you want to quote words in support of your position that relate to a fictional character in a movie that isn’t considered one of the genre.  Apt.  Very, very apt.

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 10:22pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 10:22pm

DarioMartin wrote on Tue Aug 4, 2020 8:56pm:

1st January 2021, you’ll look back on this and realise just how wrong you were.

And if you’re trying to draw lame comparisons (knowing full well that neither Stevie Wonder nor Roy Orbison ever actually used that phrase in any song), let’s look at “Never say never” - part of the title of a James Bond movie (a fictional character), and not directed by the Broccoli fami...

...ly and therefore not even regarded as a “real” James Bond movie - named because Sean Connery said “I’ll never play James Bond again” 

So you want to quote words in support of your position that relate to a fictional character in a movie that isn’t considered one of the genre.  Apt.  Very, very apt.

You are not a fortune teller nor am I but I will wait and see unlike you , we’re you as I have seen in here force your opinion on everything so I say one more time wait and see ...

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 10:24pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 10:24pm

Ian 77 wrote on Tue Aug 4, 2020 10:22pm:

You are not a fortune teller nor am I but I will wait and see unlike you , we’re you as I have seen in here force your opinion on everything so I say one more time wait and see ...

You are like a a old song that never really made it .. a high opinion of your self. But I only see stupidity ... and can only guess you have no mirrors in your  house ...

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Posted: Tue Aug 4, 2020 11:11pm

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Ian 77 wrote on Tue Aug 4, 2020 10:24pm:

You are like a a old song that never really made it .. a high opinion of your self. But I only see stupidity ... and can only guess you have no mirrors in your  house ...

If you’re seeing stupidity, I guess you need to stop looking in the mirror.

Why is it when people get challenged with facts, published facts, available facts, that challenge their own little make-believe world, that they get personal?

You know what? Live in fantasy land - it makes not the slightest bit of difference to me.  But if you provide your fantasy land as advice to people here, expect to be challenged.

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