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Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:46pm
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Lesley4

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Location: Arboleas

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Hi everyone

My name is Lesley and I am in my early 60's, now single and wanting to move to Almeria. I am currently looking at properties to buy around Arboleas / La Alfoquia / Zurgena / Huercal-Overa. This will be a permanent  move when I find the right property, I will be in Mojacar with a friend in March viewing properties and hoping to move asap.

I would be very interested in peoples views if they live around these areas at what I can find to do, especially ladies on their own.        I will be on my own most of the time and I am looking for clubs to join and make new friends, male or female. Spanish lessons are a must, also I enjoy walking (however just waiting for a new Knee replacement) I love cooking and eating out and I am looking forward to finding some good Spanish restaurants.  I have always wanted to have ago at watercolour painting as well. I am an animal lover and would like to get involved in maybe an animal shelter / charity or even foster a dog scheme which I believe happens in the Mojacar area. I am also happy to do 'Ladies that lunch' to get to make new friends as I am told the ladies seem to out number the men!

If anyone has any helpful suggestions I would be very grateful as I see this as a new period of my life and a long awaited dream of mine.

Many thanks Lesley

Haikili1969

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:17pm

Haikili1969

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Posts: 135

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Location: La Alfoquia

Joined: 2 Apr 2018

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:17pm

Hi Lesley,

Good Luck with your search... if you need any help with the buying process and the pitfalls to, always happy to help and there are some great peeps on here that have lots of knowledge and experiences. 

La Alfoquia and Zurgena have a thriving Expat community along with a mostly Spanish population. I don't know that much about Arboleas but based on what i've read here, it also has an expat community.

Top tips for your House Hunt...

1. Get a good recommended Abogado (Lawyer), plenty of recommendations on here. 

2. Never, Ever use the Lawyer or Legal Services of the Estate Agent.

3. Estate Agents -  Don't trust a word they say! 

(There are some good ones; but few and far between, air on the side of caution and trust nobody but your lawyer and you won't go far wrong)

4. Check your legal quote includes, Wills, Searches, Transfer of Utilities, Transfer of IBI, POA?.

5. Get an estimate of your Notary Fees, the more detailed the contract, Purchase, Wills.. etc the higher the cost.

6. There are some properties around Arboleas that are not legal, your lawyer will advise.

7. Read Jims Blog http://jimszurgena.blogspot.com/ Brit councillor in Zurgena.

All the Best and Good Luck.

Warren & Amanda.

Matthew

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:33am

Matthew

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Posts: 399

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Location: Mojacar

Joined: 16 May 2018

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:33am

Hi Lesley, You're in your early 60's; I guarantee you won't be around for another 60 years (Sorry!). If you buy your off-spring will be delighted with you and they can use your Spanish property long after you've gone or even sell it and enjoy your spending more. I bet you are thinking "That crazy cocky Paddy is on here again putting the frighteners on innocent Brits."

My opinion:- Rent, rent, rent. You can spend as much time here as you wish and there'll always be England if things are not up to your mark. Keep your hard earned money for your own everyday use. 

I know I'm going to get slated for this post, but you can argue with everything but you can't argue with truth.

Lesley4

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:05am

Lesley4

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Posts: 21

14 helpful points

Location: Arboleas

Joined: 19 Feb 2020

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:05am

Haikili1969 wrote on Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:17pm:

Hi Lesley,

Good Luck with your search... if you need any help with the buying process and the pitfalls to, always happy to help and there are some great peeps on here that have lots of knowledge and experiences. 

La Alfoquia and Zurgena have a thriving Expat community along with a mostly Spanish population. I don't know that much about Arboleas but based on what i've read here, it also has an expat community.

Top tips for your House Hunt...

1. Get a good recommended Abogado (Lawyer), plenty of recommendations on here. 

2. Never, Ever use the Lawyer or Legal Services of the Estate Agent.

3. Estate Agents -  Don't trust a word they say! 

(There are some good ones; but few and far between, air on the side of caution and trust nobody but your lawyer and you won't go far wrong)

4. Check your legal quote includes, Wills, Searches, Transfer of Utilities, Transfer of IBI, POA?.

5. Get an estimate of your Notary Fees, the more detailed the contract, Purchase, Wills.. etc the higher the cost.

6. There are some properties around Arboleas that are not legal, your lawyer will advise.

7. Read Jims Blog http://jimszurgena.blogspot.com/ Brit councillor in Zurgena.

All the Best and Good Luck.

Warren & Amanda.

Hi Warren & Amanda

Many thanks for your info which was helpful ,I have started a note book to compile what people are telling me as I have a lousy memory.

I am looking for a mixed area of Spanish & ex pats so looks like I'm on the right trail. 

Hope you're having better weather than we are, waiting for the next round of storms here!

Regards Lesley

Lesley4

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:11am

Lesley4

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Posts: 21

14 helpful points

Location: Arboleas

Joined: 19 Feb 2020

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:11am

Matthew wrote on Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:33am:

Hi Lesley, You're in your early 60's; I guarantee you won't be around for another 60 years (Sorry!). If you buy your off-spring will be delighted with you and they can use your Spanish property long after you've gone or even sell it and enjoy your spending more. I bet you are thinking "That crazy...

... cocky Paddy is on here again putting the frighteners on innocent Brits."

My opinion:- Rent, rent, rent. You can spend as much time here as you wish and there'll always be England if things are not up to your mark. Keep your hard earned money for your own everyday use. 

I know I'm going to get slated for this post, but you can argue with everything but you can't argue with truth.

Hi Matthew

Thanks for your input, you're right about the next 60 years, I'm hoping for at least another 20 though and want to be settled!

I have thought about renting and maybe that's the way I'll go, who knows at this stage as I am  just starting my searches.

Regards Lesley

Matthew

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:20am

Matthew

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Posts: 399

398 helpful points

Location: Mojacar

Joined: 16 May 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:20am

Hi Lesley, You were probably a bit peeved when you read my post and I am mature enough to recognise your opinion. If you buy, you may be spending most of whatever assets you have built up over your 60+ years. If you have friends/relations in Spain and they know the ropes of living here and with their advice and goodwill on buying you may be onto a winner.  But, beware of the pitfalls. I know people here who are 10 years older than you who have sold up everything in the English speaking world and have settled fulltime in Spain. You're probably thinking "that cocky Paddy is contradicting himself" but I should add the aged 70+ people did much homework before settling here. Most of this homework was done in the off season where they rented and soaked up the Spanish atmosphere and the true way of life for the expat. I'm sure only few of them would return to the UK for longer than a month now. 

Is Renting the equivalent of flushing hard cash down the toilet? No, it isn't and probably the most fruitful few bob you ever spent. Can you allay costs towards the rent in Spain? You sure can and most likely you can turn the whole renting episode into a profitable investment for yourself merely by renting out your home in the UK. There you have the secret (that many don't admit to) of people spending winter/spring in Spain. Your UK home is your greatest asset. Sell it and you've burnt your boats. 

You  may not want to rent out your home in the UK. That's OK and merely by renting in Spain and if things go pear-shape you have the immediate favour of being able to return to the UK maintaining 100% of your dignity.

You won't be the first person to seek out a new life in a different country and certainly, you won't be the last. I suggest you do not waste too much more time and go with your gut feeling and organise a rental apartment for yourself from next October or even try a rental for a month this March/April. A ballpark figure for renting in Mojacar Playa off season would be rent of €700.00 (utilities included and no hidden extras) per 4 weeks for a well located 2 bedroom apartment. All you have got to do is organise your air travel and shuttle service.

With the information you have supplied, I don't think even your best friend could give you better advice than you are receiving on this forum. 

For the record:- We have had some mist this week, but temps are around 16 degrees, too cold for a swim in the pools, but the Mediterranean water is warm enough for us northern europeans while the Spaniards waltz past thinking we swimmers should all be locked up. Sun terraces have people lying in beautiful sunshine during daylight hours most days. I would say most are reading two full books per week while the used breakfast-ware is still awaiting attention in the deserted kitchen. 

jtp890

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:05am

jtp890

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Posts: 153

92 helpful points

Location: Huércal-Overa

Joined: 15 Aug 2017

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:05am

Mathew, 

We thought only ourselves had that laid back attitude. We visit 3 months in spring and autumn, I never had time to read, but now lie you 2 books a week is the norm, breakfast finished by 10, coffee at 11,start jobs around 12, why waste the glorious sunshine

James

Richard690

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:20pm

Posts: 39

13 helpful points

Location: Mojacar

Joined: 16 Apr 2017

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:20pm

Haikili1969 wrote on Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:17pm:

Hi Lesley,

Good Luck with your search... if you need any help with the buying process and the pitfalls to, always happy to help and there are some great peeps on here that have lots of knowledge and experiences. 

La Alfoquia and Zurgena have a thriving Expat community along with a mostly Spanish population. I don't know that much about Arboleas but based on what i've read here, it also has an expat community.

Top tips for your House Hunt...

1. Get a good recommended Abogado (Lawyer), plenty of recommendations on here. 

2. Never, Ever use the Lawyer or Legal Services of the Estate Agent.

3. Estate Agents -  Don't trust a word they say! 

(There are some good ones; but few and far between, air on the side of caution and trust nobody but your lawyer and you won't go far wrong)

4. Check your legal quote includes, Wills, Searches, Transfer of Utilities, Transfer of IBI, POA?.

5. Get an estimate of your Notary Fees, the more detailed the contract, Purchase, Wills.. etc the higher the cost.

6. There are some properties around Arboleas that are not legal, your lawyer will advise.

7. Read Jims Blog http://jimszurgena.blogspot.com/ Brit councillor in Zurgena.

All the Best and Good Luck.

Warren & Amanda.

Haikilli I think you’re being most unkind and disrespectful to the Honest reliable estate agents  in the area  you cannot make blanket remarks about them . I have found c most agents in particular olive properties in bedar totally honest  and reliable 

Lesley4

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:28am

Lesley4

Original Poster

Posts: 21

14 helpful points

Location: Arboleas

Joined: 19 Feb 2020

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:28am

Matthew wrote on Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:20am:

Hi Lesley, You were probably a bit peeved when you read my post and I am mature enough to recognise your opinion. If you buy, you may be spending most of whatever assets you have built up over your 60+ years. If you have friends/relations in Spain and they know the ropes of living here and with t...

...heir advice and goodwill on buying you may be onto a winner.  But, beware of the pitfalls. I know people here who are 10 years older than you who have sold up everything in the English speaking world and have settled fulltime in Spain. You're probably thinking "that cocky Paddy is contradicting himself" but I should add the aged 70+ people did much homework before settling here. Most of this homework was done in the off season where they rented and soaked up the Spanish atmosphere and the true way of life for the expat. I'm sure only few of them would return to the UK for longer than a month now. 

Is Renting the equivalent of flushing hard cash down the toilet? No, it isn't and probably the most fruitful few bob you ever spent. Can you allay costs towards the rent in Spain? You sure can and most likely you can turn the whole renting episode into a profitable investment for yourself merely by renting out your home in the UK. There you have the secret (that many don't admit to) of people spending winter/spring in Spain. Your UK home is your greatest asset. Sell it and you've burnt your boats. 

You  may not want to rent out your home in the UK. That's OK and merely by renting in Spain and if things go pear-shape you have the immediate favour of being able to return to the UK maintaining 100% of your dignity.

You won't be the first person to seek out a new life in a different country and certainly, you won't be the last. I suggest you do not waste too much more time and go with your gut feeling and organise a rental apartment for yourself from next October or even try a rental for a month this March/April. A ballpark figure for renting in Mojacar Playa off season would be rent of €700.00 (utilities included and no hidden extras) per 4 weeks for a well located 2 bedroom apartment. All you have got to do is organise your air travel and shuttle service.

With the information you have supplied, I don't think even your best friend could give you better advice than you are receiving on this forum. 

For the record:- We have had some mist this week, but temps are around 16 degrees, too cold for a swim in the pools, but the Mediterranean water is warm enough for us northern europeans while the Spaniards waltz past thinking we swimmers should all be locked up. Sun terraces have people lying in beautiful sunshine during daylight hours most days. I would say most are reading two full books per week while the used breakfast-ware is still awaiting attention in the deserted kitchen. 

Hi Matthew

Not at all peeved I like to hear other peoples opinions and those that have gone through the process and live in Spain are very helpful.

I am looking for the quieter pace of life but with sunshine and I have spent many winter months in Spain. I have lived abroad before in Greece and know the difference when the tourists go home and the Island becomes quiet.

I'm luckily  in a position to keep a base in England so I have time to decide whether to rent or buy, I won't be rushing into anything yet, just dipping my toe in the water so to speak. 

Thanks again for your input

Regards Lesley

Lesley4

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:35am

Lesley4

Original Poster

Posts: 21

14 helpful points

Location: Arboleas

Joined: 19 Feb 2020

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:35am

Richard690 wrote on Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:20pm:

Haikilli I think you’re being most unkind and disrespectful to the Honest reliable estate agents  in the area  you cannot make blanket remarks about them . I have found c most agents in particular olive properties in bedar totally honest  and reliable 

Hello

I have heard all sorts of negatives and positives against Spanish estate agents, I guess it comes down to how individuals were treated when they searched for property and purchased. (Bit like English Estate agents some good some not).

I have linked up with 3 agencies that were recommended to me and will meet them in March to see what they have. But as I say this is a big move and I will not be rushing it.

Thanks for your input

Regards Lesley

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