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hartcjhart

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:49pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:49pm

DM wrote

if your contention that UK is to be punished is true.

Which it’s not, that’s just another manifestation of your rank xenophobia.


from the Gruniad

Britain should be punished by its European partners if it votes to leave the EU in order to discourage other countries from leaving, former European ministers have said.

The Polish former deputy prime minister Leszek Balcerowicz said Britain would be used as example. “We should not encourage other populist forces campaigning on exit such as National Front in France or Podemos in Spain. This is a very important consideration. This is in the interests of Europe that we do not encourage other EU countries to leave. The common interest of remaining members is to deter other exits. This should have an impact on the terms Britain gets.”

There is NO win-win deal’ Furious German MEP says Britain must LOSE from Brexit ‘mistake’BRITAIN must be punished for its decision to leave the European Union and there can be no “win-win” deal of the type being sought by Theresa May, a German MEP fumed today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGDuy672ak


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtCRrkOEUsU


https://facts4eu.org/news/2020_nov_eu_as_bully





 
 
hartcjhart

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:14pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:14pm

Sterling at 1.09 to the euro, it has been lower before Brexit,and it is going to rise after,currencies are traditionally affected by uncertainty

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:34pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:34pm

hartcjhart wrote on Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:49pm:

DM wrote

if your contention that UK is to be punished is true.

Which it’s not, that’s just another manifestation of your rank xenophobia.


from the Gruniad

Britain should be punished by its European partners if it votes to leave the EU in order to discourage other countries from leaving, former European ministers have said.

The Polish former deputy prime minister Leszek Balcerowicz said Britain would be used as example. “We should not encourage other populist forces campaigning on exit such as National Front in France or Podemos in Spain. This is a very important consideration. This is in the interests of Europe that we do not encourage other EU countries to leave. The common interest of remaining members is to deter other exits. This should have an impact on the terms Britain gets.”

There is NO win-win deal’ Furious German MEP says Britain must LOSE from Brexit ‘mistake’BRITAIN must be punished for its decision to leave the European Union and there can be no “win-win” deal of the type being sought by Theresa May, a German MEP fumed today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGDuy672ak


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtCRrkOEUsU


https://facts4eu.org/news/2020_nov_eu_as_bully





Do not judge me, I was NOT being xenophobic, if ANY country had wanted to leave the EU they would not have made it easy because other countries would probably leave as well.  I for one did not vote for Brexit, although as a pensioner we all seem to be blamed for the Brexit vote.

DarioMartin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:11pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:11pm

hartcjhart wrote on Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:49pm:

DM wrote

if your contention that UK is to be punished is true.

Which it’s not, that’s just another manifestation of your rank xenophobia.


from the Gruniad

Britain should be punished by its European partners if it votes to leave the EU in order to discourage other countries from leaving, former European ministers have said.

The Polish former deputy prime minister Leszek Balcerowicz said Britain would be used as example. “We should not encourage other populist forces campaigning on exit such as National Front in France or Podemos in Spain. This is a very important consideration. This is in the interests of Europe that we do not encourage other EU countries to leave. The common interest of remaining members is to deter other exits. This should have an impact on the terms Britain gets.”

There is NO win-win deal’ Furious German MEP says Britain must LOSE from Brexit ‘mistake’BRITAIN must be punished for its decision to leave the European Union and there can be no “win-win” deal of the type being sought by Theresa May, a German MEP fumed today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtGDuy672ak


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtCRrkOEUsU


https://facts4eu.org/news/2020_nov_eu_as_bully





Except none of those are the official EU position - they are opinions of individuals that carry about as much weight - less weight in fact - than the opinions of the idiots of the ERG.

Hartcjhart wrote:

“Britain should be punished by its European partners if it votes to leave the EU in order to discourage other countries from leaving, former European ministers have said.”

Talk about old - and irrelevant - news!! Britain should be punished IF it votes to leave ... so, pre 2016 then.  And “Former European ministers”? So.  People who have absolutely no say at all in what happens.  Yep, let your Xenophobia dig up more ancient history.

But Brexit is not about money - not at all....

From financial data publicly available, Byline Times can reveals that currently £4.563.350.000 (£4.6 billion) of aggregate short positions on a ‘no-deal’ Brexit have been taken out by hedge funds that directly or indirectly bankrolled Boris Johnson’s leadership campaign.

Most of these firms also donated to Vote Leave and took out short positions on tbe EU Referendum result. The ones that didn’t typically didn’t exist at that time but are invariably connected via directorships to companies that did.

Another £3.711.000.000 (£3.7 billion) of these short positions have been taken out by firms that donated to the Vote Leave campaign, but did not donate directly to the Johnson leadership campaign.

Currently £8.274.350.000 (£8.3 billion) of aggregate short positions has been taken out by hedge funds connected to the Prime Minister and his Vote Leave campaign, run by his advisor Dominic Cummings on a ‘no-deal’ Brexit.

So now we begin to see the real truth behind Brexit.  For the good of the country? No.  For the good of filthy Tory scums hip pocket. As per normal.

keith2412

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:20pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:20pm

Well said Dario bang on!!

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hartcjhart

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:45pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:45pm

DM wrote

For the good of filthy Tory scums hip pocket. 

only those words would come from a socialist scum

why do you not accept that your great socialist dream has finished in the UK(bye Jeremy)

and is set to crumble in the EU and is crumbling in all socialist states,

as I have said socialism is great until someone elses money runs out as it always does

hartcjhart

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:47pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:47pm

The Polish former deputy prime minister Leszek Balcerowicz said Britain would be used as example. “We should not encourage other populist forces campaigning on exit such as National Front in France or Podemos in Spain. This is a very important consideration. This is in the interests of Europe that we do not encourage other EU countries to leave. The common interest of remaining members is to deter other exits. This should have an impact on the terms Britain gets

hardly a nobody eh

hartcjhart

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:50pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:50pm

I think this bit is post Brexit,how about you

There is NO win-win deal’ Furious German MEP says Britain must LOSE from Brexit ‘mistake’BRITAIN must be punished for its decision to leave the European Union and there can be no “win-win” deal of the type being sought by Theresa May, a German MEP fumed today.

I thought that the MEPs were important people well that WAS according to you

DarioMartin

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:18pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:18pm

hartcjhart wrote on Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:50pm:

I think this bit is post Brexit,how about you

There is NO win-win deal’ Furious German MEP says Britain must LOSE from Brexit ‘mistake’BRITAIN must be punished for its decision to leave the European Union and there can be no “win-win” deal of the type being sought by Theresa May, a German MEP fumed today....

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I thought that the MEPs were important people well that WAS according to you

post Brexit ... but still old news and irrelevant.  Unless you think Thesa May is still PM? And FORMER deputy Polish PM? So ... not current.  Can’t find anything recent then? Mmmm

Yes, anyway, you still miss the point though where they are individual opinions and not the official position of the EU, which is being surprisingly accommodating to BoZo’s histrionics ... mind you, as expected, it does rather look as though Boris is about to cave in.

As for all your nonsensical prattle about socialism, as another brainwashed capitalist you demonstrate it is something you know absolutely nothing about, other than it is “bad”, like being a member of the EU.  You cannot articulate WHY socialism - or EU membership - is bad in any meaningful fashion, you just think it’s “bad” because that’s what your capitalist masters have directed you to think.

If you can read the information - factual information - about filthy rich Tories betting on the country losing - and profiting from it - and see nothing wrong with it, then you are not really in a position to be criticizing anyone at all, because it renders you the lowest of the low.  If you agree with their actions, profiting from misery, loss and lies, then that tells everyone all they need to know about you.

hartcjhart

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:55pm

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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:55pm

DarioMartin wrote on Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:18pm:

post Brexit ... but still old news and irrelevant.  Unless you think Thesa May is still PM? And FORMER deputy Polish PM? So ... not current.  Can’t find anything recent then? Mmmm

Yes, anyway, you still miss the point though where they are individual opinions and not the official position of the EU, which is being surprisingly accommodating to BoZo’s histrionics ... mind you, as expected, it does rather look as though Boris is about to cave in....

...

As for all your nonsensical prattle about socialism, as another brainwashed capitalist you demonstrate it is something you know absolutely nothing about, other than it is “bad”, like being a member of the EU.  You cannot articulate WHY socialism - or EU membership - is bad in any meaningful fashion, you just think it’s “bad” because that’s what your capitalist masters have directed you to think.

If you can read the information - factual information - about filthy rich Tories betting on the country losing - and profiting from it - and see nothing wrong with it, then you are not really in a position to be criticizing anyone at all, because it renders you the lowest of the low.  If you agree with their actions, profiting from misery, loss and lies, then that tells everyone all they need to know about you.

A typical cut&paste,raging socialist that think they are superior to every one else and when they are questioned/doubted all they can do is rage and insult,carry on keyboard warrior you are just showing how low you are

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