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chrisso50

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:10pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:10pm

Miket wrote on Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:04pm:

Just a couple of quotes from statistics found on recent Google searches. Both surely show the significant input by UK tourists to the Spanish economy.  

Expenditure of UK tourists in Spain 2004-2019

This statistic shows the expenditure of tourists with residence in the United Kingdom visiting Spain from 2004 to 2019. The expenditure of UK tourist on travel to Spain reached around 17.9 billion euros in 2018.

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EMPLOYER ASSOCIATION CEOE

The report also underscored the importance of British tourism to Spain: the UK is the country of origin of a majority of tourists, accounting for 21% of all arrivals and 19% of tourist spending in 2019. It also noted that British nationals are the main foreign buyers of homes in Spain, representing 14% of all purchases by non-residents last year.


It’s a bit pointless arguing about the profile of U.K. tourism in Spain when tourism is 12% of its GDP [it’s just as significant in the U.K. where tourism is10% of GDP] and when most other tourists are from EU countries which now have greater rights of access to Spain.

Spain will not make an exception for U.K. tourists which as non-EU citizens after 1 Jan will have to abide firstly by the Covid restrictions designed to keep third country nationals out and secondly by the Schengen restrictions limiting stays to 90 days at a time.

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:05am

chrisso50 wrote on Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:10pm:

It’s a bit pointless arguing about the profile of U.K. tourism in Spain when tourism is 12% of its GDP [it’s just as significant in the U.K. where tourism is10% of GDP] and when most other tourists are from EU countries which now have greater rights of access to Spain.

Spain will not make an exception for U.K. tourists which as non-EU citizens after 1 Jan will have to abide firstly by the Covid restrictions designed to keep third country nationals out and secondly by the Schengen restrictions limiting stays to 90 days at a time....

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Its only a matter of time, as for Schengen Portugal as already said they will offer 180 days at a time and tax reduction incentives , for British residents. Greece as already said it will offer tax reductions incentives.  Maybe not as pointless as you think.

The new Spanish foreign minister, she understands fully what is at stake for Spain, look at Gibraltar.

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:20am

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:20am

And so it goes on l would have thought you guys out there would have better things to do than argue over this. Relax and enjoy the sunshine after all that's why you move there isn't to get away from the bad weather and the UK in general. 

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:35am

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:35am

david 52 wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:20am:

And so it goes on l would have thought you guys out there would have better things to do than argue over this. Relax and enjoy the sunshine after all that's why you move there isn't to get away from the bad weather and the UK in general. 

Good weather ????  i am stuck in Murcia at present and its absolutely freezing with a bitter cold wind, for days now.

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:23pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:23pm

david 52 wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:20am:

And so it goes on l would have thought you guys out there would have better things to do than argue over this. Relax and enjoy the sunshine after all that's why you move there isn't to get away from the bad weather and the UK in general. 

So why are you commenting? Think on...

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:44pm

chrisso50 wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:23pm:

So why are you commenting? Think on...

Chris

Because of people like you making sweeping false statements, i am here to try to collect money from Spanish companies who have owed my businesses for over 6 months.

No doubt you are enjoying your so called good weather,  Think on 

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:15pm

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MikeH wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:44pm:

Because of people like you making sweeping false statements, i am here to try to collect money from Spanish companies who have owed my businesses for over 6 months.

No doubt you are enjoying your so called good weather,  Think on 

Kindly explain/list the ‘sweeping false statements’. I was responding to David52 actually, not you. But unsure why you think debt collection is assisted by posting on this forum 🤔

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:18pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:18pm

MikeH wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:05am:

Its only a matter of time, as for Schengen Portugal as already said they will offer 180 days at a time and tax reduction incentives , for British residents. Greece as already said it will offer tax reductions incentives.  Maybe not as pointless as you think.

The new Spanish foreign minister, she understands fully what is at stake for Spain, look at Gibraltar....

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Interesting, but largely inaccurate.  Portugal HAS agreed a 10 year tax break for UK migrants, and the bar for migrating to Portugal is lower BUT .... 

The EU has agreed to add the UK to its list of visa-exempt countries (provided the UK reciprocates). So, unless there is an alternative UK-Portugal agreement, UK citizens will be limited to visiting Portugal for up to 90 days within any 180-day period without a visa.“

According to Portuguese government information and indeed Gov.uk, updated 18/12/20, there is no “waiver” or other “special arrangement” in place to allow a stay of 180 days.  Just Brexity wishful thinking I’m afraid.

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:32pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:32pm

DarioMartin wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:18pm:

Interesting, but largely inaccurate.  Portugal HAS agreed a 10 year tax break for UK migrants, and the bar for migrating to Portugal is lower BUT .... 

“The EU has agreed to add the UK to its list of visa-exempt countries (provided the UK reciprocates). So, unless there is an alternative UK-Portugal agreement, UK citizens will be limited to visiting Portugal for up to 90 days within any 180-day period without a visa.“
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According to Portuguese government information and indeed Gov.uk, updated 18/12/20, there is no “waiver” or other “special arrangement” in place to allow a stay of 180 days.  Just Brexity wishful thinking I’m afraid.

You should be stopped from spreading false information on this site, like the UK as very little involvement in Spain they are the largest business investor in Spain, i have been involved with Spanish businesses for over 25 years. As for UK tourist they out number German and France put together, what is it your information that Germany with send an additional 20 million tourist to cover for the loss of UK tourist, get real man.

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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:33pm

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MikeH wrote on Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:32pm:

You should be stopped from spreading false information on this site, like the UK as very little involvement in Spain they are the largest business investor in Spain, i have been involved with Spanish businesses for over 25 years. As for UK tourist they out number German and France put together, w...

...hat is it your information that Germany with send an additional 20 million tourist to cover for the loss of UK tourist, get real man.

Your the one spreading false info - all I’m doing is correcting your bullsh*t

1. UK ISN’T largest business investor in Spain - thats Switzerland.  UK at the moment is second, although investment from 2019 to 2020 has dropped markedly.  That comes from British Chamber of Commerce

2. UK tourism DOESN’T outnumber Germany and France combined - not by a long mark.  In 2019 UK sent 18.000.000 tourists to Spain.  Germany and France sent 11.000.000 EACH.  22.000.000 is a bigger number than 18.000.000 - 4.000.000 more in fact.  Per head, German and French tourists SPENT more than UK tourists as well.

3. UK tourists will still come to Spain on holiday.  So no, Spain won’t make special arrangements because, like Portugal, it doesn’t need to.

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