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seadebs

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:25pm

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:25pm

makes a lot of sense

Platinumc

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:28pm

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:28pm

Hi

No travel is currently allowed, if someone is in there holiday home, they have a right to stay there.  Otherwise, until the lockdown is lifted, they cannot arrive to be able to stay there.

Changes are being updated on a weekly basis by the Spanish government, whether right or wrong, we all have our own opinions.

The best option is to wait and find out what the real updates are rather than wasting energy speculating. 

Until the 26th APRIL, right now, no movement of people is possible.

Be safe,


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daveewilliams

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:11pm

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:11pm

DarioMartin wrote on Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:08pm:

Just to add my one pennies worth of unsubstantiated opinion, I don’t know if Spain will be the problem.  As has been noted, there are shoots of hope in Italy and here - even if our new infection rate has started to rise again (up to around 630 I believe now after dropping to the low 500’s)

Let’s take very VERY best case scenario which will see easing of restrictions gradually over the month of May until by start of June we are sort of back to normal - that’s a very big ask, but like I say, very very best case........

...

... the issue then won’t be so much in Spain, but in visitors from countries with high population densities (i.e. UK)  with high infection rates and very weak quarantine restrictions (i.e. UK).  It’s entirely feasible that Spain, while slowly coming back to economic survivability, may close its borders to visitors from UK / USA until as such time the infection rate has dropped significantly and visitors from those countries are deemed “safe”

PLEASE NOTE: this is PURELY my opinion, completely unsubstantiated.  I have not heard this as a rumour anywhere, just my thoughts.

Possibly but I don't think any flights will be leaving the UK until it is safe to do so.  Also yes it may seem that compared to Spain and Italy the UK's lockdown isnt as robust, but compared to many other European countries it is.  Also don't forget that tomorrow's increased return to work has been driven by the Spanish economy being on its knees, as all other countries' economies are. I doubt very much when the time comes, that Spain will shut its doors to British tourists, especially if as seems likely we're looking at the middle of summer at the earliest. 

However, I think a bigger risk to Spain's economy will be UK visitors not going to Spain. Or anywhere else abroad for that matter. Having been in lock-down for weeks or longer, all most people will want is to be with friends and family, going to a bar, a show, a restaurant or just being able to go where they want when they want. The simple things will seem so much more important. A foreign holiday is unlikely to be at the top of many people's to-do list in 2020. Like you, though, that's just my opinion and based on my own feelings.

Matthew

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:37pm

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:37pm

My View:- TripAdvisor and other fora have gone off the rails with "Spain will be open to tourists from early June 2020" or such like expressions. I don't have such confidence and my best prediction is for some form of foreign tourism to start during September.

Why:- People are dying in their hundreds each day in Spain and not included are Covid-19 victims in Care Homes or outside the hospital system. Spain has much more tragedy to endure and so has the UK (also whose death toll does not include those dying outside of the hospital system). Much of both populations still haven't bought into fighting Covid-19 properly. Sending some Spanish construction workers back to work from today each with  face masks is like the airmen of the Divine Wind being given a glass of saki before they started their planes with fuel for a one way journey. There is a lot of tragedy to be endured yet, I regret to say.

LeeB

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:08pm

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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:08pm

Tricia77 wrote on Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:10am:

Yes, I'm well aware of how Murcia got it's first case ...you're obviously reffering to the woman that lives in La Churra area of Murcia (which I know well) that traveled to Madrid. So...what are you saying?

Im saying that ANY movement around the country is not cunducive to ending his nightmare. Going to a holiday home cannot, in any way, be deemed to be an essential trip.

It aint rocket science and I'm disappointed that an explanation to such a simple question is required.

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seadebs

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:58pm

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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:58pm

Matthew wrote on Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:37pm:

My View:- TripAdvisor and other fora have gone off the rails with "Spain will be open to tourists from early June 2020" or such like expressions. I don't have such confidence and my best prediction is for some form of foreign tourism to start during September.

Why:- People are dying in their hundreds each day in Spain and not included are Covid-19 victims in Care Homes or outside the hospital system. Spain has much more tragedy to endure and so has the UK (also whose death toll does not include those dying outside of the hospital system). Much of both ...

...populations still haven't bought into fighting Covid-19 properly. Sending some Spanish construction workers back to work from today each with  face masks is like the airmen of the Divine Wind being given a glass of saki before they started their planes with fuel for a one way journey. There is a lot of tragedy to be endured yet, I regret to say.

i also think the companies are just trying to collect as much money as possible before they go bust sad but obvious

easyjet were naughty changing flights just kept putting them back now offering vouchers or u can squeeze a refund if prepared to be on the phone 3 hours

Ian 77

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:50am

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:50am

Brian70 wrote on Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:18pm:

Thank you both, I agree with you. Very sorry about all businesses but life is precious

I think. Most of us care more for health than anything, but imo this cannot go on the way it is every country in Europe. Cannot cope without finance. It will collapse ...Spain Italy Greece. Are tourists countries and they are loosing millions. Which they cannot afford to.. in the uk they are trying to slowly ease it  and I’ve heard another 20 days or so will be added. ( May 9) then I think people will be allowed back to work and the keep your distance  hand washing etc etc will be around for a long time ..aeroplane company’s cannot be grounded for to long they will go bust goverments cannot keep up with helping them people will lose jobs companies will go ... so imo there has to be a compromise  and that’s how I see it going.  June / July. I think things will improve. How much no one knows but there will be changes ....

Andymac1951

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:03am

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:03am

DarioMartin wrote on Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:08pm:

Just to add my one pennies worth of unsubstantiated opinion, I don’t know if Spain will be the problem.  As has been noted, there are shoots of hope in Italy and here - even if our new infection rate has started to rise again (up to around 630 I believe now after dropping to the low 500’s)

Let’s take very VERY best case scenario which will see easing of restrictions gradually over the month of May until by start of June we are sort of back to normal - that’s a very big ask, but like I say, very very best case........

...

... the issue then won’t be so much in Spain, but in visitors from countries with high population densities (i.e. UK)  with high infection rates and very weak quarantine restrictions (i.e. UK).  It’s entirely feasible that Spain, while slowly coming back to economic survivability, may close its borders to visitors from UK / USA until as such time the infection rate has dropped significantly and visitors from those countries are deemed “safe”

PLEASE NOTE: this is PURELY my opinion, completely unsubstantiated.  I have not heard this as a rumour anywhere, just my thoughts.

Does not France, Belgium and Italy feature in your unsubstantiated opinion or are you simply showing an anti UK bias?

DarioMartin

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:14am

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:14am

Andymac1951 wrote on Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:03am:

Does not France, Belgium and Italy feature in your unsubstantiated opinion or are you simply showing an anti UK bias?

France have just extended lockdown to 11th May and if I recall were one of the first to close borders to the UK weren’t they?

I’m reacting to claims elsewhere from some that Spain cannot survive without UK tourism and therefore that UK forms the brunt of tourism to Spain.  USA is to a much much lesser extent, but their quarantine laws are weak as well and they have a narcissistic egomaniac calling the shots.

Say what you like, but Britain’s quarantine “restrictions” are WEAK.  It seems as though they are still covertly seeking this “herd immunity”.  It of course doesn’t help when British police ask for the powers to enforce the quarantine and are criticized by a missing-in-action Home Secretary.

But anyway, I spoke of UK / USA because those are the two countries most in the news for having a wishy-washy approach to a pandemic.

Andymac1951

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:22am

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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:22am

DarioMartin wrote on Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:14am:

France have just extended lockdown to 11th May and if I recall were one of the first to close borders to the UK weren’t they?

I’m reacting to claims elsewhere from some that Spain cannot survive without UK tourism and therefore that UK forms the brunt of tourism to Spain.  USA is to a much much lesser extent, but their quarantine laws are weak as well and they have a narcissistic egomaniac calling the shots....

...

Say what you like, but Britain’s quarantine “restrictions” are WEAK.  It seems as though they are still covertly seeking this “herd immunity”.  It of course doesn’t help when British police ask for the powers to enforce the quarantine and are criticized by a missing-in-action Home Secretary.

But anyway, I spoke of UK / USA because those are the two countries most in the news for having a wishy-washy approach to a pandemic.

Ummm, and what of the Swedish approach?  

As for the French closing their borders, it would seem that does not apply to their Northern Coast line.

Once again I assume the 'wishy washy' comment is another of your unsubstantiated opinions?

As Mathew quiet rightly points out, the Spanish approach to allow construction workers back to work is somewhat foolish or perhaps 'wishy washy' Quote - 'Sending some Spanish construction workers back to work from today each with  face masks is like the airmen of the Divine Wind being given a glass of saki before they started their planes with fuel for a one way journey' - unquote.

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