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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:21pm
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hartcjhart wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:11pm:
well said and the donkeys are VERY well paid with great expenses and pension pots all paid for by guess who
Well as you are doubtless referring to the dim witted donkeys currently leading the country, obviously it is you, the taxpayer who supports them.
hartcjhart wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:11pm:
well said and the donkeys are VERY well paid with great expenses and pension pots all paid for by guess who
None of them are arsed about this country. They will bleed it dry then move to a hot rich country and live a life of riley&stick.2 fingers upto the uk.
DarioMartin wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:33pm:
COMHGHAIRDEAS !!!
(Did I get that right Matthew....?)
Very Good Dario. Keep up your support for the Irish language and you can have my Irish Passport.
And Stuart, get this is one Racism was the main issue of Brexiteers - I regret to say. Wake up and smell the coffee.
rt21 wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:13pm:
Well the only thing that I will add to the debate is that so far I have not seen one tangible benefit from Brexit.
The government's inability to articulate benefits from Brexit are resonating with the British public. A recent opinion poll showed that only 35% believe that Britain was right to leave the E.U....
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Richard
And I doubt you will for at the very least 5 years more like 10 years, but we will be working towards running our own country again. So be patience.
DarioMartin wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:26pm:
I briefly unblocked the message to see what you were agreeing to. Oh well.
I see Stuart has not changed from being a complete numpty who lives in his own little fantasy world
Why is someone a numpty just because he/she doesn't agree with you.
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Juliet Diaz wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:50pm:
All these opposing views and debate would be entertaining if it wasn't for the fact that the negative impact of brexit is so serious. Just look at OECD economic reports and forecasts ( an international organisation with 38 member states) to see that the economic outlook for post brexit Brit...
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...ain is bleak and far worse than the majority of developed countries. The Brexiteers response that it's just the Remainers remoaning is without substance. There is data to prove the damage so far and the damage to come.
This data that you talk about is probably produced by some quango that doesn't live in the real world. They usually are.
One thing is for certain there are some people who believe Brexit is good and some who believe it is bad and never the Twain shall meet. I can say from my experience that there are gaps on supermarket shelves on a regular basis and it’s not because of panic buying caused by a pandemic. What the cause of the shortages are I will let you make your own minds up.
Jenni wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:47pm:
Why is someone a numpty just because he/she doesn't agree with you.
Jenni, Would you please read some of the posts at least before you reply? Nobody was called a numpty just because of mere disagreement. But, then again we're dealing with a Jenni who wants the Grand National banned. And even I didn't call you a numpty as I believe in free speech.
But, don't feel isolated because you're not the only one in this position.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:10am
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Jenni wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:45pm:
And I doubt you will for at the very least 5 years more like 10 years, but we will be working towards running our own country again. So be patience.
Rees-Moog seems to think it’s closer to 50 years before any “benefits” can be seen - and he’s the Brexit Minister. But what does he know. 50 years is long enough for people to forget anyone promised them any benefits, so well played Rees-Mogg.
But in 50 years time Brexit will just be a bad memory. The Anti EU crowd complained and gnashed their teeth for close on 40 years until they got sufficient support to get their way. Rejoin will be exactly the same - it’ll be the long game and saying “get over it” will have no power. You can expect these arguments to continue for at least another 30 - 40 years, and the youth who are the leaders and voters of tomorrow are predominantly pro EU. It may take another 30 years, but UK will be back - they can’t afford not to be. As I have said numerous times before, there is no more Empire, UK has chosen to be one small country outside the economic power of a United block. And isn’t that UKs argument? “Stronger Together”? or does that only apply when Scotland seeks independence from Westminster rule … bit hypocritical.
But the arguments about “running our own country”, “getting our country back”, “regaining our sovereignty” or “control of our borders” are just so much horsefeathers - Britain always was a sovereign country with control of its borders (despite having “control of its borders”, net migration from countries outside the EU has increased since Brexit), and any EU legislation it didn’t like, it could have veto’d - it had that power …
but the thing Brexit supporters don’t like to acknowledge is that half the legislation people whinge about having “forced” on them, Britain helped actually draft! The remainder it didn’t veto or vote against. With Farage as an MEP, he was too busy grandstanding by turning his back on the EU parliament - you have him to thank for the fishing industry in UK going into decline, by the way. He dropped the ball on that quite significantly.
DarioMartin wrote on Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:10am:
Rees-Moog seems to think it’s closer to 50 years before any “benefits” can be seen - and he’s the Brexit Minister. But what does he know. 50 years is long enough for people to forget anyone promised them any benefits, so well played Rees-Mogg.
But in 50 years time Brexit will just be a bad memory. The Anti EU crowd complained and gnashed their teeth for close on 40 years until they got sufficient support to get their way. Rejoin will be exactly the same - it’ll be the long game and saying “get over it” will have no po...
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...wer. You can expect these arguments to continue for at least another 30 - 40 years, and the youth who are the leaders and voters of tomorrow are predominantly pro EU. It may take another 30 years, but UK will be back - they can’t afford not to be. As I have said numerous times before, there is no more Empire, UK has chosen to be one small country outside the economic power of a United block. And isn’t that UKs argument? “Stronger Together”? or does that only apply when Scotland seeks independence from Westminster rule … bit hypocritical.
But the arguments about “running our own country”, “getting our country back”, “regaining our sovereignty” or “control of our borders” are just so much horsefeathers - Britain always was a sovereign country with control of its borders (despite having “control of its borders”, net migration from countries outside the EU has increased since Brexit), and any EU legislation it didn’t like, it could have veto’d - it had that power …
but the thing Brexit supporters don’t like to acknowledge is that half the legislation people whinge about having “forced” on them, Britain helped actually draft! The remainder it didn’t veto or vote against. With Farage as an MEP, he was too busy grandstanding by turning his back on the EU parliament - you have him to thank for the fishing industry in UK going into decline, by the way. He dropped the ball on that quite significantly.
Thank god i wont be around. The UK will disintegrate through "greed&incompetence". Run by Muppets&Crooks who dont give a hoot unless they are makung billions for themselves. What a world we live in with climate&planet crisis yet these idiots dont care😭
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