Vera wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:02pm:
I just got my irish passport yipeeeeee spain here i come and goodbye crap britain
COMHGHAIRDEAS !!!
(Did I get that right Matthew....?)
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:33pm
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Vera wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:02pm:
I just got my irish passport yipeeeeee spain here i come and goodbye crap britain
COMHGHAIRDEAS !!!
(Did I get that right Matthew....?)
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:44pm
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Matthew wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:47am:
1. I believe that Brexit was a Protest Vote that went wrong. However, the bottom line is that a majority of those who voted opted for the UK to exit the EU.
2. "Let's Get Brexit Done" became a Boris Johnson catch-cry. He's a politician and there's nothing like a catchy few words to get the party faithful and brain-dead in rally mode. Who gained? - Probably a few rich people who didn't need the extra money anyway. Certainly, nobody else cashed in ahea...
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3. Britain has regained her "independence" (I nearly said soverignty) from the EU. But, what does that mean? It's unlikely that the NHS will be all the better, although promises were only promises and in the relatively short term the NHS will be privatised and sold (probably to United States investors). Again the Fat Cats will profit handsomely.
4. The person in a meagre job before Brexit is still in a meagre job after Brexit. Perhaps this punter deserves this in all that he stupidly believed approaching the Referendum? A fat lot Brexit has to offer to such people - and a fat lot they'll get.
5. I arrived in Spain a few weeks ago and toured in our new campervan eventually arriving in Mojacar. On our first night one of my neighbours (who never visited RoI) arrived on our doorstep waving his new Irish Passport. He called it "My Golden Ticket." His grown up children have now applied for an Irish passport. Let me say, I'm very proud of such circumstances as I've hammered away on this forum for people to investigate the Irish Passport thing. And thanks to the moderator(s) for allowing it to proceed. Again I would say that anybody who has an Irish parent/grandparent and who is a UK citizen to investigate the process of becoming "Irish" especially if you live in Spain or just have a holiday home in Spain.
6. Brexit is the greatest disaster to hit the UK since WW2. I don't say this lightly. Ask any person of mixed race in the UK if he/she feels better because of Brexit. I bet a huge majority of answers will say "No." The UK is not far off the signs on many boarding houses of the 1950's/1960's which stated "No Blacks, No Irish, No Dogs." My strongest belief is that Racism got Brexit done. Some of my Panama Hatted acquaintances openly admit this. I have no problem in saying that they are racist although they won't admit to it. (I'm not absolving the large Irish population in the UK who were part of this racist process either). Nobody can argue with the truth, something that is rare in the UK for many years. Ask any Tory.
7. Voting System:- I've promoted Proportional Representation - Single Transferable Vote on this forum too. It works in Ireland, but with the huge population numbers in the UK it probably is unworkable. But, it is a fairer system. The First Past the Post system of voting will probably be used in general elections for years to come. Just a quote from several United States presidents:- Democracy has its limits, but there's nothing better around.
Ha ha ha.....
Haven't been on this site for a while but notice the same old anti Brexiteers are still peddling their nonsense about the British people being stupid to want their sovereignty back and make their own laws and decisions, through people they voted for.
We are never going back into the EU and contrary to what Matthew and Dario may say, it is the best thing the United Kingdom ever did leaving that corrupt abysmal corporate entity who are only interested in their own importance, power and your money.
Soon more countries will be leaving both the Euro currency and the club. If they had been strong and paid their dues to NATO, then the Ukraine debacle may never have happened. It was left up to the UK to step up to the plate. The EU is weak, insecure and run by donkeys.
Stuart47 wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:44pm:
Ha ha ha.....
Haven't been on this site for a while but notice the same old anti Brexiteers are still peddling their nonsense about the British people being stupid to want their sovereignty back and make their own laws and decisions, through people they voted for.
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We are never going back into the EU and contrary to what Matthew and Dario may say, it is the best thing the United Kingdom ever did leaving that corrupt abysmal corporate entity who are only interested in their own importance, power and your money.
Soon more countries will be leaving both the Euro currency and the club. If they had been strong and paid their dues to NATO, then the Ukraine debacle may never have happened. It was left up to the UK to step up to the plate. The EU is weak, insecure and run by donkeys.
I couldn't agreed more
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:41pm
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Jenni wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:30pm:
I couldn't agreed more
Yup, I notice also it's always the same when they don't have a good argument they always must play the race card. ......typical.
Well the only thing that I will add to the debate is that so far I have not seen one tangible benefit from Brexit.
The government's inability to articulate benefits from Brexit are resonating with the British public. A recent opinion poll showed that only 35% believe that Britain was right to leave the E.U.
Richard
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:26pm
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Jenni wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:30pm:
I couldn't agreed more
I briefly unblocked the message to see what you were agreeing to. Oh well.
I see Stuart has not changed from being a complete numpty who lives in his own little fantasy world
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:50pm
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DarioMartin wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:26pm:
I briefly unblocked the message to see what you were agreeing to. Oh well.
I see Stuart has not changed from being a complete numpty who lives in his own little fantasy world
All these opposing views and debate would be entertaining if it wasn't for the fact that the negative impact of brexit is so serious. Just look at OECD economic reports and forecasts ( an international organisation with 38 member states) to see that the economic outlook for post brexit Britain is bleak and far worse than the majority of developed countries. The Brexiteers response that it's just the Remainers remoaning is without substance. There is data to prove the damage so far and the damage to come.
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:56pm
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Juliet Diaz wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:50pm:
All these opposing views and debate would be entertaining if it wasn't for the fact that the negative impact of brexit is so serious. Just look at OECD economic reports and forecasts ( an international organisation with 38 member states) to see that the economic outlook for post brexit Brit...
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...ain is bleak and far worse than the majority of developed countries. The Brexiteers response that it's just the Remainers remoaning is without substance. There is data to prove the damage so far and the damage to come.
But Brexit supporters refuse to see it, falsely claiming the EU is about to come apart at the seams and UK is the fastest growing economy, all the better for Brexit etc etc. utter fantasy. The most recent poll revealed that only 35% of people now support Brexit.
That Brexit has failed is without question and that UK will apply to rejoin in years to come is a foregone conclusion - but will they be accepted then? I think without a radical shift in governmental thinking, the answer would be “no thank you” - especially not if MEPs were going to be the same tantrum throwing toddlers that was typified by the behaviour of Farage and co.
DarioMartin wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:56pm:
But Brexit supporters refuse to see it, falsely claiming the EU is about to come apart at the seams and UK is the fastest growing economy, all the better for Brexit etc etc. utter fantasy. The most recent poll revealed that only 35% of people now support Brexit.
That Brexit has failed is without question and that UK will apply to rejoin in years to come is a foregone conclusion - but will they be accepted then? I think without a radical shift in governmental thinking, the answer would be “no thank you” - especially not if MEPs were going to be ...
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...the same tantrum throwing toddlers that was typified by the behaviour of Farage and co.
The uk is goosed
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 9:11pm
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Stuart47 wrote on Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:44pm:
Ha ha ha.....
Haven't been on this site for a while but notice the same old anti Brexiteers are still peddling their nonsense about the British people being stupid to want their sovereignty back and make their own laws and decisions, through people they voted for.
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We are never going back into the EU and contrary to what Matthew and Dario may say, it is the best thing the United Kingdom ever did leaving that corrupt abysmal corporate entity who are only interested in their own importance, power and your money.
Soon more countries will be leaving both the Euro currency and the club. If they had been strong and paid their dues to NATO, then the Ukraine debacle may never have happened. It was left up to the UK to step up to the plate. The EU is weak, insecure and run by donkeys.
well said and the donkeys are VERY well paid with great expenses and pension pots all paid for by guess who
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