What will happen to holiday properties owned by brits if we leave the EU? - Page 2

Hi Matt,

Thank you for your words and for the conversation we've had on here, you have given us all on here more of an insight from the Ireland perspective and food for thought.

I really do hope there's a happy ending for all too as your 100% right when you say it will be the poor who take the brunt of any problems, as per usual. The tax exiles in SI will still be OK.

I don't think anyone expects a really smooth transition between in/ out, it's looking far too complicated but one needs to ask - are the EU making things overly hard for Britain? It looks like it to me, but others might think otherwise.

I'm a bit frightened by it all TBH but after traveling through and across France 3 times recently seeing all the WW1 and WW2 war memorials I'm also worried about why the collective European Govts. got the new Russian objectives so wrong and demobbed much NATO kit across Europe.... The poor always take the brunt of any conflict 

All the best to you Matt, hopefully we can converse in future about more lighter/ happier things.

Chris

I believe most people (outside of France,Germany and Spain) believed as the EU expanded that we were heading for a United States of Europe. Of course, we didn't and passports are still necessary when exiting Ireland for every EU country except Britain. The likes of Ireland and Britain were made for the EU complying with every EU law like having bananas more straight and eggs with an expiry date printed on the shells. Italy took to obeying EU laws like Mussolini was a kindergarten leader. Belgium, The Netherlands followed on the coat-tails of France and Germany and were first to prosper when anything was going. France never considered itself a member of the EU; it thought it is the EU. The German main concern is almost solely inflation reduction. 

Britain's population of over 80 million (I think that's correct) decided for Brexit with Northern Irish, Welsh, Scottish populations voting to remain in the EU. The nationalists in these countries will see this as an exit opportunity from Britain. I don't know how this will play out, but it will depend on financial aid from Westminster which of course will leave England all the poorer (just my opinion). The perception of Britain and Brexit is like a junkie good-for-nothing boyfriend ending a relationship with a good looking hard working girl. I'm not saying that Britain is full of junkies or good-for-nothing, I'm just giving a comparison. I don't know how to reconcile Scottish nationalists drinking in the Cave Bar with Panama hatted old farts stroking their halves of lager at the bar counter in Badgers while their uninterested wives gossip gleefully in a corner. 

The future is interesting, I hope it plays out peacefully. But, a Britain that is currently perceived by Brexiteers is not going to happen. Those who are poor now will still be poor after Brexit.

The EU will have to change too or as you said there will be more countries exiting. On a point of note, every news bulletin on national radio and television in Ireland since the Brexit vote has had a prominent story on the divorce. I bet even news bulletins on the BBC and ITV do not have such coverage.

Things are getting a bit hotter in the UK for Teresa May. Deadlines which won't be met are being mentioned. I think the UK taxpayer is quickly learning the cost of the Conservatives being in bed with Arlene Foster (a hypocritical bigot, at best).

I reckon the UK's stay in the EU will be extended for a further two years during which there will be another referendum which will have a positive vote to remain in the EU. 

From reading newspaper reports and watching current affairs programmes on television I get the feeling that the average UK resident thinks France, Germany etc are hoping for Britain not to leave. From where I sit, they (French, Germans etc) couldn't give a whit. It's the Irish that wish the UK to remain in the EU. And, I believe most Brits now wish to remain too.

"Most brits now want to stay/remain" you must read the daily mail lol. There wont be another referendum, the Irish border "problem" will be resolved, if Theresa May and her cabinet colleagues had any balls/backbone we'd have been out by now. Heaven only knows why theres been these interminable delays. 

We as an Island nation managed without being shackled to the EU and all it's bully boys and yes "keep paying youre multibillion pound contributions so we can spend/waste it on whatever we please". Have you noticed just how many men vs women are in the EU/Brussels negotiation teams ??.

The problem we have is that there are too many remainers overseeing the withdrawal process.

Just why May keeps going back and forth to Brussels with weak mandates and proposals, do you or anyone else for that matter know the full meanings behind "hard and soft" Brexits ??

We'll manage and quite possibly prosper after the dust has settled.

Next topic that'll concern everyone else is Jeremy Hunt sneaking his way into number 10 and david camerbuffoon weasling his way into the foreign secretaries job lol. Oh what a team that might make, a weasel of an ex NHS secretary and a shameful I lost the referendum I thought might give me loads more airmiles flying back and forth with cap in hand so I'll dissapear into the weeds because the great british voting public went against my wishes. 

A shambles now as it was then.

Interesting aspect there from Chevyrecycler3. I don't agree with most of what she/he wrote, but she/he is entitled to her/his views.

Whatever Teresa May is, she is not weak. It doesn't matter what newspaper one reads, it's the consequences of the Brexit situation. The EU has its shortcomings but we need a United States of Europe. With Mr Trump making promises that he and his voters know will never be kept, the last thing we need is a disunited Europe particularly at this time. 

There is no such thing as a soft exit from the EU. The term was coined by politicians for unsuspecting people which they (the politicians) never gave credit for being intelligent. I hope Chevyrecycler3 is wrong and that the UK will receive an extended stay in the EU and that another referendum will take place within that time. 

Britain is no longer Great as in the original title. It is a divided country before we even contemplate its immigration problems and its hope of prospering after Brexit is low and getting lower by the week. I hope I am wrong, but this time I feel the people of the UK have backed the wrong horse.

The Bank of England has just issued some concerns regarding a no-deal exit by the UK from the EU. To say the least these are frightening especially for the Brit in Spain. Slower rise in GDP, rampant inflation, huge unemployment, permanent fall in the value of sterling. And the Spaniards haven't started yet . . . 

The Irish Passport office has become even more busier with applications for Irish passports from people residing in the UK. Remember, for the past year passport applications have taken months to process whereas hitherto applications were completed within days. Rep. of Ireland could have quite a formidable team for the next World Cup (I jest!).

March is approaching fast. I predict a General Election in the UK sooner than most think and another Referendum on EU membership, this one there will be a vote to Remain.

Carney at the BoE was predicting meltdown if the referendum vote was to leave the EU. It didn't happen. He's predicitng meltdown now. I see no reason to think he'll be any more accurate this time.

Rob
Los Gallardos/Palomares

Let's hope you're right, Rob. Let's hope I'm right too. If we're wrong the result is unthinkable.

Oh you do may me laugh Matthew 🤣🤣🤣

mmmmmm now where`s my crystal ball.

We are all entitled to our own opinions, including the Canadian B O E  boss Mark Carney who got his scaremongering wrong the first time and will have to be given credence to get it wrong again, and if he can`t get it right who can/could/would ?

At the end of the day and having had a vote to leave the EU we, the voters will have to put up with whatever "deal" we are left with no matter what we feel or think and trust our supposed elders and betters to get the best deal possible. 

Most of the remainers  predicting another referendum are very minor politicians who want their 15 seconds of limelight, except of course our less than illustrious former PM some say war criminal what was his name ? who is the subject of hate and vitriol but who the media still give airtime to and who pops up to boost his already plentiful coffers.

I (male btw retired to Spain) early 2017 and just got home from a lovely 3 course meal, in a great restaurant with sea views, great wine (tho I drink coke) and company, all for the equivalent of £12pp, have residencia, soon to have a Spanish driving licence to drive some of the best least congested roads in Europe ? and love it here, should I be commenting on things related to the UK ?? should I be worried about the outcome of Theresa Mays negotiations and the outcomes as they relate to ex pats ?? as above, mmmmmmmmm where`s my crystal ball.