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Andymac1951

Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2020 9:47pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2020 9:47pm

DarioMartin wrote on Mon Mar 9, 2020 7:40pm:

I think what’s more important is how much UK brings in .... less than 0,5% of GDP

I have zero idea of how much those other particular groups bring in - nor do I have any intention of using any time finding out as it is largely irrelevant.... the information is available on government websites if anyone is REALLY interested .... I suspect not....

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It is a fact that UK expats are fourth largest group.  It is also a fact that income from those expats and UK tourism combined form the figure already mentioned.

Why anyone should think that Spain will bend over to make any special arrangement is a bit beyond me ... and indeed, why Spain should bother to make any arrangement when all too many of our countrymen don’t even bother to learn the language!!

Oh dear me Dario, you have been put on the spot and have no answer other than your anti brit response.  I had hoped for better.

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Posted: Mon Mar 9, 2020 10:00pm

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Andymac1951 wrote on Mon Mar 9, 2020 9:47pm:

Oh dear me Dario, you have been put on the spot and have no answer other than your anti brit response.  I had hoped for better.

Not at all Andy; I never claimed to know about percentage of GDP of other groups - I have absolutely no intention of following that rabbit down the hole either because it is not even a side-issue - it’s utterly and totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

I’m not anti-Brit - I’m anti anyone who comes here, shows no interest in integrating, shows no interest in learning the language, and expects everything to be delivered to their door in English.

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:57pm

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DarioMartin wrote on Mon Mar 9, 2020 3:22pm:

That is because, given the figures, the question is irrelevant.

What is relevant is just HOW “important” we are to Spain, are we important enough to warrant “special arrangements”?

The answer to that is a resounding “NO”.  December 2020, when Transition period is over, UK becomes a third country, with its still-waiting-to-be registered nationals subject to exactly the same restrictions and requirements as any other third country national.

I’m trying to be as blunt as possible so that any still not with Residencia but living here - or wanting to live here - that may be reading this, thinking post 12/2020, that “something will have been worked out” will be left in no doubt.  

After 12/2020, There. Is. No. Special. Arrangement.  The Withdrawal Agreement is in place and continues through to 31/12/2020.  After that date, different rules will apply.

In your humble opinion Dario, you still have not put any numbers to the amounts that Brits and their relatives spend in Spain each year.  That would be a far greater measure of the value than simply quoting numbers of people residing in the Country.

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2019/01/03/tourist-figures-78-4-million-holidaymakers-visited-spain-last-year/

I can not see why the Spanish would want to make the UK a special case.

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:59pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:59pm

alant wrote on Mon Mar 9, 2020 6:48pm:

I do not dispute your figures but please do tell us how much money the   Romanians, Moroccans and South Americans  bring into the Spanish economy?

Alant, in my opinion he cannot, I too asked for the same information.  Sadly I believe he is simply anti British and anti BREXIT.

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:22pm

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Andymac1951 wrote on Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:59pm:

Alant, in my opinion he cannot, I too asked for the same information.  Sadly I believe he is simply anti British and anti BREXIT.

Would probably behoove you to actually read the posts then - save you making yourself look a bigger fool than you normally do :-D

Look back.  You’ll notice both Chrisso and I stated that total income from Brits, both living here and holidaying was “less than 0,5% of Spain’s GDP” and I stated I had no idea of the relative GDP of other population groups, nor was I going to waste time finding it.  It is not even a side issue, it is utterly irrelevant.

I also responded that I’m not anti-Brit - just will not willingly engage with anyone who comes here and can’t be bothered or refuses to integrate, can’t be bothered or refuses to learn the language and expects everything delivered to their door in English.

Good lord - you’re getting as bad as that other chappy who seemed to need to be repeatedly told of the difference between the WA and the trade agreement.

You are right in one respect though - the whole thrust of my point is, as you have stated,  “ I can not see why the Spanish would want to make the UK a special case.”

Indeed - why would they?

ADDENDUM: quoting Euro Weekly does you no favours ... this is the ... source ... that stated ALL Brits would have to have private health cover post December 2020.  Utterly shameful.

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:53pm

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DarioMartin wrote on Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:22pm:

Would probably behoove you to actually read the posts then - save you making yourself look a bigger fool than you normally do :-D

Look back.  You’ll notice both Chrisso and I stated that total income from Brits, both living here and holidaying was “less than 0,5% of Spain’s GDP” and I stated I had no idea of the relative GDP of other population groups, nor was I going to waste time finding it.  It is not e...

...ven a side issue, it is utterly irrelevant.

I also responded that I’m not anti-Brit - just will not willingly engage with anyone who comes here and can’t be bothered or refuses to integrate, can’t be bothered or refuses to learn the language and expects everything delivered to their door in English.

Good lord - you’re getting as bad as that other chappy who seemed to need to be repeatedly told of the difference between the WA and the trade agreement.

You are right in one respect though - the whole thrust of my point is, as you have stated,  “ I can not see why the Spanish would want to make the UK a special case.”

Indeed - why would they?

ADDENDUM: quoting Euro Weekly does you no favours ... this is the ... source ... that stated ALL Brits would have to have private health cover post December 2020.  Utterly shameful.

Ho ho ho 

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:54pm

DarioMartin wrote on Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:22pm:

Would probably behoove you to actually read the posts then - save you making yourself look a bigger fool than you normally do :-D

Look back.  You’ll notice both Chrisso and I stated that total income from Brits, both living here and holidaying was “less than 0,5% of Spain’s GDP” and I stated I had no idea of the relative GDP of other population groups, nor was I going to waste time finding it.  It is not e...

...ven a side issue, it is utterly irrelevant.

I also responded that I’m not anti-Brit - just will not willingly engage with anyone who comes here and can’t be bothered or refuses to integrate, can’t be bothered or refuses to learn the language and expects everything delivered to their door in English.

Good lord - you’re getting as bad as that other chappy who seemed to need to be repeatedly told of the difference between the WA and the trade agreement.

You are right in one respect though - the whole thrust of my point is, as you have stated,  “ I can not see why the Spanish would want to make the UK a special case.”

Indeed - why would they?

ADDENDUM: quoting Euro Weekly does you no favours ... this is the ... source ... that stated ALL Brits would have to have private health cover post December 2020.  Utterly shameful.

Behoove, funniest yet.  You are a card Dario and yet you still failed to answer the question posed by both myself and Alan.  

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:06pm

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Andymac1951 wrote on Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:54pm:

Behoove, funniest yet.  You are a card Dario and yet you still failed to answer the question posed by both myself and Alan.  

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenpope/2019/03/02/spain-shows-sense-in-dealing-with-british-expatriates/amp/

Perhaps you would care to rubbish Forbes as well Dario?

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:29pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:29pm

Andymac1951 wrote on Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:54pm:

Behoove, funniest yet.  You are a card Dario and yet you still failed to answer the question posed by both myself and Alan.  

I’ve answered it - it is just clearly beyond your understanding. Hey ho, nothing I can do about that.

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:53pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:53pm

Then of course there is always the Spanish Authority themselves 

https://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/1237620/Spain-holidays-tourism-spending-pound-euro-travel-money/amp

I await with baited breath Dariomario response rubbishing yet another view other than his own.

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