Post-Transition income requirements for Expats (immigrants) from Britain - Page 3

With the greatest of respect ... that, sadly, counts as one of the stupid answers.

The agreement you refer to is a trade deal.  It has nothing ... NOTHING to do with the Withdrawal Agreement which is already in effect.

May I politely suggest you research a little - there is plenty of real information available on both lamoncloa.gob.es (Spanish Government) and gov.uk to tell you what applies and doesn’t apply with regards moving to Spain.

In making your answer “with great respect”, you have in fact demonstrated that you are utterly clueless as to the difference between the WA and the currently being negotiated trade agreement .... 

Dear Gary. 

Please stop talking nonsense. Pretty please. 

The information/advice given here does not mean we are ‘concerned’ or ‘anxious’. It’s pure and simple - if you want to come and live in Spain you need to do so legally AND it is strongly advisable to obtain residential status before 31 December. That is what both the British and Spanish governments are saying. Now.

The deal is done. It was negotiated by Mr Johnson before December 2019. It is called the WITHRAWAL AGREEMENT. Do read up on it. I know you said you prefer simple answers and that is it. It covers Citizens Rights. Those address becoming or remaining a resident in an EU country. The U.K. is no longer an EU country, we have left the EU. The current negotiations by Johnson with the EU are to do with trade relationships from 2021. We are in a 11 month Transitional period at present which expires on 31 December.

Chris

“You can’t say what you do” indicates you probably work for HM Gov.

Your utterly clueless response regarding “no deal” etc etc waffle waffle crap crap crap is an even greater indication you “work” for a government that can’t tell it’s arse from its elbow and is completely, totally, utterly inept and incompetent, and ... has no idea.

As Chrisso points out, as I have pointed out Mr “know a lot about it”, the WITHDRAWAL AGREEMENT covers citizens rights, etc.  that’s why we are in a Transition Period and despite having left the EU, current Residencia rules apply until 31/12/20.

What BoJo the BoZo is currently trying to deal with is TRADE AGREEMENT - whether UK exits the transition period with favorable trade agreements or on WTO terms ..... it has NOTHING to do with Citizens Rights, which have already been covered in the legally binding WITHDRAWAL AGREEMENT.  

Jeez Chrisso, think it’s sunk in to him now?

EDIT:  It would appear the response in which the poster indicated he knew a great deal about the agreement(s) but couldn’t say what he did has been pulled ....

Some what disingenuous of you there methinks.  The Romanians and Moroccans may well out number the British migrants but the question you should ask is who spends the most and how that benefits the Spanish economy.  Given that the average national income in Romania is circa £ 6000  I should think most are here to earn as much as they can and send the bulk of said earnings back to Romania, just as they have done, and still do, in the UK.  I would imagine that the Moroccans do something similar and would be low paid.

I stand to be corrected, as I'm sure you will Dario, but please just do not quote numbers of peoples, put some meat to the bone and let us all know just how much financially the various Nationalities support the Economy, be it local or National?

 iyv

As Chrisso pointed out, total income from UK tourism, pensions etc makes up less than 0,5% of Spain’s GDP.

There will be no “special arrangement”.....

Does not answer the question.

That is because, given the figures, the question is irrelevant.

What is relevant is just HOW “important” we are to Spain, are we important enough to warrant “special arrangements”?

The answer to that is a resounding “NO”.  December 2020, when Transition period is over, UK becomes a third country, with its still-waiting-to-be registered nationals subject to exactly the same restrictions and requirements as any other third country national.

I’m trying to be as blunt as possible so that any still not with Residencia but living here - or wanting to live here - that may be reading this, thinking post 12/2020, that “something will have been worked out” will be left in no doubt.  

After 12/2020, There. Is. No. Special. Arrangement.  The Withdrawal Agreement is in place and continues through to 31/12/2020.  After that date, different rules will apply.

I do not dispute your figures but please do tell us how much money the   Romanians, Moroccans and South Americans  bring into the Spanish economy?

No wonder so many Brits here are confused. EuroTrash is an utterly dreadful rag. I have never seen so much total nonsense and misinformation in a few short paragraphs - with no clarification from the so called journalist who is clearly as ignorant as the people he (apparently) talked to. Utterly shameful dissemination of fake news...

It’s also a wonder that he is blissfully unaware that the U.K. state pension is not €1100 every four weeks. If only!

Chris

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2020/03/08/thousands-of-british-ex-pats-worried-about-health-care-costs-and-prescription-charges-in-spain-make-plans-for-the-move-to-portugal/

I think what’s more important is how much UK brings in .... less than 0,5% of GDP

I have zero idea of how much those other particular groups bring in - nor do I have any intention of using any time finding out as it is largely irrelevant.... the information is available on government websites if anyone is REALLY interested .... I suspect not.

It is a fact that UK expats are fourth largest group.  It is also a fact that income from those expats and UK tourism combined form the figure already mentioned.

Why anyone should think that Spain will bend over to make any special arrangement is a bit beyond me ... and indeed, why Spain should bother to make any arrangement when all too many of our countrymen don’t even bother to learn the language!!