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johanna wrote on Mon Jun 8, 2020 8:30am:

EU citizens can stay 90 days within a 180 days period. If you stay longer you may be fined, but you cannot be deported as Dario says. 
For British citizens everything will depend on the negotiations about Brexit. If it still ends up a Brexit without an agreement, the British even might ne...

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...ed to apply for a visa. 

DarioMartin wrote on Mon Jun 8, 2020 11:05am:

My apologies - deportation and/or barring from entering the Schengen zone only applies to third country nationals (which UK will soon be)

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/consequences-of-overstaying-in-schengen-area/

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The above link talks about application for a visa, so obviously doesn’t apply to UK ... yet.  That being said, The introduction of ETIAS will require anyone from outside Schengen zone to apply online for a Schengen visa.  Was supposed to be January 2021, but I believe has been put back a couple of years.  This would cost in the region of £7 and be valid for 3 years.

Ireland, whilst an EU member state, is NOT in the Schengen zone. I would suggest that they will be one of the countries to which a Schengen visa waiver is applied.

DarioMartin wrote on Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:42am:

With thanks to Chrisso50, have seen this.  I’m going to post it on a couple of the relevant threads:-

For the EU citizen registration ‘green paper’ residence certificate, you need sufficient income. I believe the amounts have just increased as they are based on the minimum income in Spain, which has just increased; see below.  ...

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”I believe it is now about 6,500 € p.a. for a single person; 11,100 € for a couple. If you do not have that amount of income, then savings of those amounts, or assets (say a property) can be used instead. 

[or]

“It has gone up from €7500e to €9000 each or if pensioners the pension requirement has moved from €1000 to €1500 per couple per month (a 50% increase)

“I was assisting as a volunteer translator, when the police told a woman that the property of her female partner of several years, would be accepted as sufficient funds for her. She obtained the registration.

”The requirements for registration are decided by central government so are the same across spain, albeit there might be slight differences in interpretation.“

[not sure that is correct, they do seem to vary from one region to another]

Extract from:

http://www.interior.gob.es/web/servicios-al-ciudadano/extranjeria/ciudadanos-de-la-union-europea/estancia-y-residencia

“The accreditation of the possession of sufficient resources will be made by any means of proof admitted in law, such as property titles, certified checks, supporting documentation for obtaining capital income or credit cards, providing in the latter case an updated bank certification that certifies the amount available as credit of the aforementioned card. The assessment of the sufficiency of means must be carried out individually, and in any case, taking into account the personal and family situation of the applicant. Sufficient accreditation for the fulfillment of this requirement will be considered the possession of resources that are greater than the amount established each year by the General State Budget Law to generate the right to receive a non-contributory benefit, taking into account the personal and family situation of the  interested.”

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Re minimum income in spain:-

https://www.elmundo.es/economia/2020/06/01/5ed4d1c4fdddff2f0c8b460c.html 

Chris 66 wrote on Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:35pm:

Thank you for your post it is very helpful

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Jun 4, 2020 9:11am:

If I have understood the question correctly, then the answer is no - 90 days stay max is already law for EU passport holders and has been for some time.  It’s a rolling 90 in 180 day period, so the timer starts when you enter the country.  If you enter 1st October, then you have 90 da...

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...ys which would take you to end of December, at which point you would have to leave for 90 days before returning.

Marcioca wrote on Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:06pm:

Sorry to jump in but being part of the EU people from both countries always had (and will have till 31 Dec 2020) freedom to come and go , i.e. Spanish people living and working in Uk and vice versa. So many british people have a holiday home and stay for long periods in Spain. I never thought thi...

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...s was like USA where you can only stay for 90 days at a time .

DarioMartin wrote on Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:28pm:

Yes - it’s a common misconception that having an EU passport allows you to live wherever you want.  All countries within the Schengen area require you to register if you intend to stay for longer than 90 days. In Spain, this registration is “Residencia”, you become a resident of that c...

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...ountry.

The 90 days applies to the whole of the Schengen area as well, so your 90 day timer starts when you enter the Schengen zone.  So if you don’t have residency of a Schengen country, and you then do two months in Spain, then skip across to France for a month, you haven’t “reset” the timer, you have in fact used your 90 day allowance, and must now leave the Schengen area for 90 days before returning.

Marcioca wrote on Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:42pm:

But my colleagues from work who are from Italy and France and Spain just came to this country and work here. They’re free to come and go. No restrictions.

I googled asking “how long can I stay in Spain without becoming a resident?”

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“You can stay in Spain for a maximum of 183 days per year (6 months) in order to not become a resident. If you spend an extra day (184 days and onwards) you will be regraded as a resident hence paying resident taxes in the country.”

Very confusing!