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ErnieR

Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2021 10:07pm

ErnieR

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Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2021 10:07pm

Lyn77 wrote on Wed Feb 3, 2021 2:43pm:

May i also add twopenneth!   You are going to retire you say at 60.  I did and have been over here 21 years.  Just look a bit further into the future. Public transport being one thing.  If for some reason you cannot drive your car, is there a bus service?  I dont thi...

...nk Arboleas area has one  or if there is it is not frequent.  All amenties close by?  No car means carrying everything.   I live on Vera Playa.  Plenty of English yes, but my house is not near to any and all the ones nearby are owned by Spanish people  most of whom live out of the area and these are their 2nd homes.  Very busy in August but for most of the time very quiet.  Close to the sea(if that's what you want) and if you are fit within walking distance to Garrucha a lovely spanish town.  You did ask for the cons so this is another way if looking at things.  Hope you get what you want, oh! And yes learn to speak at least basic spanish earlier rather than later.  

Thanks Lyn,

Now that is something that we didn’t consider. 20 years from now is something that we need to consider and the ability to move around by public transport. Thank you so much for putting that on our radar.

Ernie

Marcioca

Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2021 11:23pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 3, 2021 11:23pm

ErnieR wrote on Wed Feb 3, 2021 10:05pm:

Hi Marcioca,

Thank you so much for your reply. You have given us lots to think about and consider. We are looking forward to getting out to Almeria and trying out a few areas

Ernie

So glad I could help a bit! Hope all goes well later this year!

patricia62

Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 2:43pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 2:43pm

ErnieR wrote on Wed Feb 3, 2021 9:57pm:

Patricia, thank you very much for your reply you have given us lots of very good information 👍

No problem, glad to have given a little input. I wish you all the best with your plans for a new life. 

Patricia 

Lyn77

Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 2:47pm

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Posted: Thu Feb 4, 2021 2:47pm

Glad to help.

Albamar

Posted: Sun Mar 7, 2021 5:35pm

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Posted: Sun Mar 7, 2021 5:35pm

Looking to move to the Arboleas, Albox area in the coming year, delayed from last year because of COVID, would it be a good place to live for a relaxed lifestyle and friendly locals.


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penny

Posted: Wed Nov 1, 2023 8:50am

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Posted: Wed Nov 1, 2023 8:50am

DarioMartin wrote on Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:19am:

Crime .... I didn’t mention it in my initial response because it really is so low as to be unnoticeable - YES, you still get break-ins - most often at unoccupied holiday lets .... but violent crime is very low.  Guardia Civil / CNP are much MUCH less forgiving than English / Scottish polic...

...e.  Even Policia Local are very heavily armed. Basically ... you just don’t screw with the police. At all.

Roads ... get used to no one using indicators - I mean entering a roundabout here is at best a guessing game, but there are very few accidents for all that.  I find there is an order of magnitude LESS road-rage here than UK.  Maybe it comes from a more relaxed lifestyle but drivers seem to be a lot more courteous.  Just remember not to get worked up when the car in front of you stops in the middle of town so the driver can chat to his friend 😂

Integration: we chose specifically not to live in an expat heavy area, as we wanted to immerse ourselves - we came to Spain to live in Spain; It was a grand dream ... and it forces you to learn Spanish!! In Vera, some English is spoken, but in Correos, Ayuntamiento - all official offices here, forget it - it’s Spanish only.  I believe up around Arboleas / Albox there is a much greater Expat presence and English is more prevalent; but to really integrate, to involve yourself and be part of the Spanish community .... learn Spanish.  There are four official languages in this country.  English is not one of them.

Noise levels: we live at Valle del Este - it’s a stones throw from the E15 and I hear NO traffic, nor dogs barking (ok, dogs bark occasionally, but certainly not all night) it is exceptionally quiet around here.  Arboleas? Couldn’t tell you.  Have driven through but haven’t stopped there for any length of time.

Parcels: now that might bug you 😂 Spanish couriers have a habit of saying “address incomplete” or “recipient absent” if they are running behind time - that way they don’t get penalized for late delivery.  Correos / Correos Express are pretty good, but if you live out in a campo, chances are you are going to have to find a local garage / shop that’s known to courier drivers and have parcels delivered there.  SEUR are about the worst for that, but it really comes down to where you choose to live and how well the individual drivers know the area.  Generally if you live in an urbanización or pueblo you’ll have less problems getting parcels.

Don’t expect things to happen quickly here either.  This is Spain and the more relaxed pace of life translates into every facet of life .... embrace, love it, live it and you’ll have a wonderful time..... fight against “the way”, complain and get stressed when things don’t happen as quickly as you are used to and you will live a life of anxiety and frustration 🤣

Wouldn’t swap it for anything.

I thought stopping in middle of road for a chat was normal it is what we do in my part of Wales!

Frank

Posted: Sun Nov 5, 2023 2:30pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 5, 2023 2:30pm

Ernie, check your income tax liabilities as a resident. I was resident for a few years and tax on my pension was about double what I paid in Ireland. And no deductions for things like health expenses. It was enough to make me move, and keep my visits under 183 days per year.

Adam Zana WHUTD

Posted: Mon Nov 6, 2023 7:28am

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Posted: Mon Nov 6, 2023 7:28am

ErnieR wrote on Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:07pm:

Okay,

This is aimed at those people who are actually living in Spain. I know that there are a lot of holiday home owners, who will all have there thoughts, and a number of people who would love to come to live in Spain. But as I say I would like to get the opinion of those who have moved permanently to...

... help my wife and I decide if moving lock, stock and barrel is the right thing for us.

I know most of the pros better weather, healthier life style, lower cost of living etc and some cons like bureaucracy, visas, potential illegal homes, expensive electricity etc. Simple question is are there any real serious cons of living in Almeria province and in particular around Arboleas?

Thanks

Ernie

Hi Ernie,

Just been reading your message and all the replies. I was wondering did you move to Spain in the end?

If so, how are you getting on?

We are looking to move over next year to the Almeria region so any new advice would be great

Adam & Zana

ErnieR

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:02am

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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:02am

Adam Zana WHUTD wrote on Mon Nov 6, 2023 7:28am:

Hi Ernie,

Just been reading your message and all the replies. I was wondering did you move to Spain in the end?

If so, how are you getting on?

We are looking to move over next year to the Almeria region so any new advice would be great

Adam & Zana

Hi,

No we haven’t moved to Spain and I will say yet. Lots of things have got in the way but we are hopeful that we will get there eventually 

😃

Ernie

Adam Zana WHUTD

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:05am

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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2023 7:05am

ErnieR wrote on Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:02am:

Hi,

No we haven’t moved to Spain and I will say yet. Lots of things have got in the way but we are hopeful that we will get there eventually 

😃

Ernie

Ok, good luck and thanks for replying.

Adam

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