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Looking at the Gov.uk website the only changes are around self-isolation for 14 days should you get to Spain.  However, FCO advice is still only essential travel. It still opens up a huge minefield. 

Think most countries governments have tried their best with a previously unknown disease.  Still I'm sure the Facebook experts in the field will disagree. 

Hi Again

Reading the replies to my coment I would like to make one more observation on the Covid-19 when this first came to light of the obreak in Wuhan (China) and how fast they locked down the province I believe that the boat was missed at this point the whole of China should have been locked down with no travel in or out of the country maybe just maybe we would not all be in the position we are in at the present, I am not slagging any one country regarding their response as this is a new virus and no one new how it would behave when out in the community its a learning curve for all concerned, but I hope that with the help of WHO that they collectively come up with a plan for any future outbreak of any virus new or old it needs a holistic approch internationaly,

Take stay safe regards

Gov.uk is probably couple of days behind.  The law on masks comes into force tomorrow, 21/5, and the regulations concerning beaches are not from central government - this regulation is from Junta de Andalucia and covers beaches in Andalucia, so not sure if gov.uk will print that.

"I do beleive that if everyone treated this desease with repect and meanfull of the rules we could be in a better place"

So say all of us. And when in Spain we should do as Spain says. So I may dislike some of the rules but I either comply or stay at home.

Chris

There are exemptions though: see below -


(Translated)

The Spanish government has published the BOE giving an explanation as to why they decided we must wear masks and details of when we must observe it. My translated summary follows -

As a result of the rapid development of the health emergency at national and international level with regards to COVID-19, the Government has extended the state of alarm to deal with the health crisis - last one was BOE of 8th May extending it till midnight of 24th May - and is able to issue orders, rulings, provisions and clarify misinterpretations, all of which are necessary to ensure that they are understood and are being made in order to protect people, goods and places.

The ‘European Common Roadmap’ for lifting COVID-19's lockdown measures that was presented on 15 April by the Presidents of the European Commission and the European Council, considered the essential measures that should be taken by Member States based on current information available in relation to the characteristics of the disease and how it is spread. The cautionary measures adopted have reduced the morbidity and mortality rate of COVID-19, while strengthening health systems and ensuring necessary supplies are available to deal with the pandemic.

On 16 April the World Health Organisation defined the principles that must be considered when lifting measures with special attention given to minimise the risks in places with higher potential for infection such as enclosed and public places that have a high concentration of people while ensuring the commitment of the population as a whole to follow the measures to protect theirs and other’s lives and health.

The evolution of the health crisis requires continuous updating and this BOE aims to address the early stages of the disease and asymptomatic people and its need to regulate the use of masks.

The widespread use of masks by the general population aims to reduce viral spread by blocking the emission of infected droplets which is very important when it is not possible to maintain the safe social distancing. It is also necessary to follow precautionary measures to allow us to continue on the path of reducing the contagion of the disease in our country, especially when other measures such as vaccination are not available.

Therefore, this BOE details the mandatory use of masks in people aged six years and older on public roads, in outdoor spaces and in any enclosed space for public use or areas that are open where it is not possible to maintain the safe social distance of at least two metres.

There are some exceptions to this obligation - those who have some form of breathing difficulties that may be aggravated by the use of the mask and those whose use is contraindicated for health or disability reasons.

Likewise, its use will obviously not be enforceable when undertaking certain activities such as eating or drinking and in circumstances where there is a cause of force majeure or need.

We must also remember the need to continue complying with the recommendations of the health authorities regarding the maintaining interpersonal distance, hand hygiene and other preventative measures.

The mandatory use of the wearing of a mask that is preferably hygienic and surgical and covers the nose and mouth should be worn in the areas indicated above for all people aged six years and older.

It is not enforceable in people:

- with a type of breathing difficulty that may be aggravated by the use of a mask

- where the use of a mask is contra-indicated for justified health reasons

- whose disability or dependence make the use of a mask unworkable

- during activities in which, by their very nature, the use of a mask is incompatible

- in cases of force majeure or situation of need.

This BOE will be applicable from tomorrow Thursday 21 May 2020.

As long as you can, when outside. But a ‘public space’ can be a paseo, a road, a beach, a marina - as well as obviously shops. So always best to carry one with you wherever, ready to whip it on! After all a series of people walking towards you on a narrow pathway may make it impossible to maintain 2 metres distance. I have seen quite a few parked cars with a mask hanging from the rear-view mirror, they may now be taking their masks with them.

Chris

I am reading it the same as you Derek, so thanks Chisso for that.

REgards  Jenni

We know how you feel. Were supposed to be out for 3 weeks at Easter but wasn't to be. Now hoping to get out in August as lots of gardening  to do & sorting as haven't been for since February - fingers crossed flights will commence soon

Jan & Rob

Too true, there is good & bad everywhere! Some are just not taking this virus seriously enough. We will we happy to self isolate at our rural property We just need to get there.  We do understand concerns 're Brits bringing the virus over but I am sure that there will be many checks before we will be allowed to fly & we certainly will wear masks & gloves. There are many responsible people who just want to get time at their property........

Jan & Rob

The only thing if you allow one to come you would have to let everyone entry Sorry it's life