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Moving to the area in September

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:34pm
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Beannie1

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Hello again, I had posted previously in SJDLT forum but having now [hopefully] secured a winter rental in the Vera/Garrucha area I’m introducing myself to all you lovely helpful people.

I plan to arrive September 1st [restrictions allowing!!] and will be aiming to achieve residency before the dreaded end of the year cutoff. Ive read, listened and absorbed lots of info from here and other sites and I’m confident I can meet the requirements, I understand I’ll need private health insurance until I reach state retirement age and so on. 

Many thanks to Chrisso and Dario especially for heaps of good information on those fronts.

I’m thinking now about recommendations please for local gestors or abogados to assist with hand holding through the residency process. My Spanish is currently at the absolute beginner stage, though I sincerely hope that changes fairly quickly.

I’m nervous and excited, to be moving to a new country once again at the age of almost 60 with no contacts in the area is what my brother would have called ‘a strong move’, but there’s no prizes for the faint hearted in life and if I don't do it now I’m scuppered by the Brexit scenario.

I shall be up for glasses of vino and cups of coffee in the sun from September, hope to meet a few of you there. I’d also be interested in a bit of volunteering/beach cleaning/dog walking/walking and activity groups as I’ll want to meet some people!!!

Beannie 

truenudist

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:54pm

truenudist

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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:54pm

Beannie1 wrote on Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:34pm:

Hello again, I had posted previously in SJDLT forum but having now [hopefully] secured a winter rental in the Vera/Garrucha area I’m introducing myself to all you lovely helpful people.

I plan to arrive September 1st [restrictions allowing!!] and will be aiming to achieve residency before the dreaded end of the year cutoff. Ive read, listened and absorbed lots of info from here and other sites and I’m confident I can meet the requirements, I understand I’ll need private heal...

...th insurance until I reach state retirement age and so on. 

Many thanks to Chrisso and Dario especially for heaps of good information on those fronts.

I’m thinking now about recommendations please for local gestors or abogados to assist with hand holding through the residency process. My Spanish is currently at the absolute beginner stage, though I sincerely hope that changes fairly quickly.

I’m nervous and excited, to be moving to a new country once again at the age of almost 60 with no contacts in the area is what my brother would have called ‘a strong move’, but there’s no prizes for the faint hearted in life and if I don't do it now I’m scuppered by the Brexit scenario.

I shall be up for glasses of vino and cups of coffee in the sun from September, hope to meet a few of you there. I’d also be interested in a bit of volunteering/beach cleaning/dog walking/walking and activity groups as I’ll want to meet some people!!!

Beannie 

Hi Beannie 

It sounds like you have done your homework and you have made the decision! Thats great!  Both Dario and Chrisso have good knowledge.

My opinion only, I know, but you dont really need an Abogado to gain residency unless you have some issue out of the ordinary. 

I achieved mine by reading all the information on https://www.gov.uk/guidance/living-in-spain.

All the links are there. It tells you exactly what to do. You can make appointments online so that you actually save time when you get here. 

The only thing you might possibly need is transport to the Oficina de Extranjero in Almeria. And that really isn't that difficult to arrange.

Hope this helps a little.

regards,

DarioMartin

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:50pm

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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:50pm

Beannie1 wrote on Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:34pm:

Hello again, I had posted previously in SJDLT forum but having now [hopefully] secured a winter rental in the Vera/Garrucha area I’m introducing myself to all you lovely helpful people.

I plan to arrive September 1st [restrictions allowing!!] and will be aiming to achieve residency before the dreaded end of the year cutoff. Ive read, listened and absorbed lots of info from here and other sites and I’m confident I can meet the requirements, I understand I’ll need private heal...

...th insurance until I reach state retirement age and so on. 

Many thanks to Chrisso and Dario especially for heaps of good information on those fronts.

I’m thinking now about recommendations please for local gestors or abogados to assist with hand holding through the residency process. My Spanish is currently at the absolute beginner stage, though I sincerely hope that changes fairly quickly.

I’m nervous and excited, to be moving to a new country once again at the age of almost 60 with no contacts in the area is what my brother would have called ‘a strong move’, but there’s no prizes for the faint hearted in life and if I don't do it now I’m scuppered by the Brexit scenario.

I shall be up for glasses of vino and cups of coffee in the sun from September, hope to meet a few of you there. I’d also be interested in a bit of volunteering/beach cleaning/dog walking/walking and activity groups as I’ll want to meet some people!!!

Beannie 

Truenudist is correct, you can do it yourself - but rules and regs change quickly and it can all depend very much on the temperament of the Official you get on the day.

I would have no hesitation in recommending Mundi Abogados at Las Buganvillas - they deal with Extranjeria on a daily basis, are aware of the ins and outs and will take care of all the paperwork for you, as well as attending with you.  For peace of mind you can’t beat that!

Good luck - pop in to the studio when you get here and say hello 😁

Beannie1

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:13pm

Beannie1

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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:13pm

Thankyou Dario for the recommendation, and I shall indeed come and say hello!

DarioMartin

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:40pm

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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:40pm

Beannie1 wrote on Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:13pm:

Thankyou Dario for the recommendation, and I shall indeed come and say hello!

I look forward to it :-D

clachglas

Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2020 2:56pm

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Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2020 2:56pm

Beannie1 wrote on Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:34pm:

Hello again, I had posted previously in SJDLT forum but having now [hopefully] secured a winter rental in the Vera/Garrucha area I’m introducing myself to all you lovely helpful people.

I plan to arrive September 1st [restrictions allowing!!] and will be aiming to achieve residency before the dreaded end of the year cutoff. Ive read, listened and absorbed lots of info from here and other sites and I’m confident I can meet the requirements, I understand I’ll need private heal...

...th insurance until I reach state retirement age and so on. 

Many thanks to Chrisso and Dario especially for heaps of good information on those fronts.

I’m thinking now about recommendations please for local gestors or abogados to assist with hand holding through the residency process. My Spanish is currently at the absolute beginner stage, though I sincerely hope that changes fairly quickly.

I’m nervous and excited, to be moving to a new country once again at the age of almost 60 with no contacts in the area is what my brother would have called ‘a strong move’, but there’s no prizes for the faint hearted in life and if I don't do it now I’m scuppered by the Brexit scenario.

I shall be up for glasses of vino and cups of coffee in the sun from September, hope to meet a few of you there. I’d also be interested in a bit of volunteering/beach cleaning/dog walking/walking and activity groups as I’ll want to meet some people!!!

Beannie 

Hi,

Check out coastal cleaners on Facebook, they organize beach clean ups. 

truenudist

Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2020 3:23pm

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Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2020 3:23pm

clachglas wrote on Sun Jul 5, 2020 2:56pm:

Hi,

Check out coastal cleaners on Facebook, they organize beach clean ups. 

I think you have done just what I have done - posted to the wrong thread.

It has been suggested that I take more water with it but I do believe it maybe a problem outside our sphere so dont worry too much 

Beannie1

Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2020 5:05pm

Beannie1

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Posted: Sun Jul 5, 2020 5:05pm

clachglas wrote on Sun Jul 5, 2020 2:56pm:

Hi,

Check out coastal cleaners on Facebook, they organize beach clean ups. 

Thats great, thanks! I will be looking for some volunteering activities

DarioMartin

Posted: Tue Jul 7, 2020 7:05pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 7, 2020 7:05pm

Further info on the process, originally posted by Anne Hernández, Brexpats in Spain:

THE TIE (RESIDENT CARD) FOR NON-EU CITIZENS (BRITISH CITIZENS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE WITHDRAWAL AGREEMENT)

I cannot stress this enough but if you already have a green residency (A4 paper or credit-card size) you do NOT have to do anything to exchange it for the TIE. Until further notice and, for as long as you remain a resident here, that green residency will remain valid. You can apply to exchange it on a voluntary basis at any time but it is NOT an obligation to do so. In fact, it is preferred you wait until after the transition period to avoid clogging up the system because many newly arriving Brits are going to be rushing to get theirs!

You are legally obliged to keep it updated though - change of address etc and this can be done at your nearest National Police station or, in its absence, from the Foreign Office of your province (both by prior appointment). To prove your change of address it is advised to take a current padrón (issued within the last 3 months) from your local town hall that proves you are an inhabitant of the municipio. If you change from renting to buying a property then for a few euros you can also get a new Nota Simple (summary of Deeds) from the Property Registry that proves you to be the owner.

If you have had your green residency for 5 years and want to change from temporary to permanent, as before, by prior appointment, you can also do this at the nearest National Police station.

For any changes to your existing green residency, apart from the TIE application form, the only extra thing you will need to take that you didn’t need to present before is a colour passport photo (Spanish-sized not UK-sized) because you will be issued with a TIE and might also be needing fingerprints but that is yet to be clarified.

The UK had until 30 June to request an extension to the transition period, it did not so after 31 December, that period will end and things will change for new arrivals to Spain after that date because we shall become third-country nationals. As EU citizens it was our right to reside in an EU country, as third-country nationals we have follow a different system of the country to allow us to reside. Spain has opted for the declaratory system so the grace period of 6 months thereafter (until end June 2021) does not apply.

What does this mean?

Any British nationals who do not already have a green residency should apply for their TIE before 31 December if they wish to take advantage of the Withdrawal Agreement that protects our rights as EU citizens until then. For those who apply after 31 December 2020 but have been living in Spain prior to this date will have to prove the fact of their residency in Spain and we do not have confirmation of what evidence they would accept to demonstrate this.

This involves a new system. Until 31 December the same documentation is required plus a photo and possibly fingerprints, the TIE application form must be completed and presented with the documentation. The initial application must be made at the province’s Foreign Office by prior appointment or online using your digital signature, if you have one. Within 3 months you will receive their decision and, if positive, an appointment must be made within one month at your nearest National Police station to then collect your TIE. If a negative decision is given, you are entitled to lodge your appeal.

This same new 2-step system will apply for all Brits arriving after 31 December who wish to apply for residency but they will have to meet the more strict requirements as third-country nationals.  

Beannie1

Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2020 12:12am

Beannie1

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Posted: Wed Jul 8, 2020 12:12am

Thanks Dario, oh my goodness there’s a lot of information t process again! My current feeling is to let the dust settle for a couple of weeks until we all have a chance to see what is happening in practice, and then consult a gestor/abogado to undertake the process on my behalf. Meantime I will open a bank account and start to fund it regularly. I have found a property to rent for 6 months from 1st September, but I am a little concerned whether this will be sufficient for the purpose of application. The abogado i previously spoke to in the area said that anything over 3 months would be ok, but I shall wait a bit and see whether she still feels that is the case under the new system.

I do hope that having the funds available to buy a property once I decide where to live will help in any process.

Hmmm, fingers crossed for a bit

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