Coming back to Mojacar - Page 2

Dario, can people with holiday homes here come and go as many times as they wish within the 90 day period, or do they have to wait for 90 days to return after each visit? It's a situation I can never quite get my head around.

Thanks.

Hi Marion

Just tuned in here. In Dario's absence I can tell you that you are free to come and go as many times as you wish within the 90 days. It is 90 days in total irrespective of how many times you travel. That then means you must stay out of the country for a period totalling 90 days before returning. So to summarise, you are able to come and go here as many times as you like provided you are only here for a total of 90 days in any 180 day period.

Hope this helps and I'm sure Dario confirm.

regards,

Thank you for your advice.

Dead right, thank you.

And also remember that the 90 days applies to the entire Schengen zone, not just Spain, so you can’t do 90 days here, then go to Portugal, say for 90 days

For those coming here, the following, posted first elsewhere by Chrisso50 may be useful.  Please note the restrictions applying to beaches:

LIMITED CAPACITY

The occupancy in bars and restaurants is expanded to 75%. 

Cinemas and theatres may reach 65% of their normal occupation. 

Open-air concerts can be performed with a maximum of 1,500 attendees, always seated. 

Common areas of the hotels have a capacity of 50%.   

In cinemas, theaters, auditoriums, circuses and similar public or private spaces, there must be pre-assigned seats, provided they do not exceed 65% of the capacity allowed in each room, allowing a maximum attendance of 800 people for closed places and 1,500 people in outdoor activities.

NURSING HOMES: 

New admissions will be allowed in residential centres where no cases of coronavirus have been registered during the last week.

BEACHES: 

The general rule of 1.5m minimum social distance or use of a mask must be maintained.

SPORT:

Outdoors a maximum capacity of 65% is established, with a limit of 1,500 people. In closed spaces, the capacity will be 65% maximum, with a limit of 800 people.

FAIRS & PILGRIMAGES:

Fairs and pilgrimage celebration are not recommended. But, where appropriate, the fair attractions authorized by the municipalities may occupy a row of seats at 50%, with at least 1.5 metres between seats; attractions without seats may have 50% of the capacity with a safety distance, and 30% of capacity in attractions without seats in which the safety distance cannot be guaranteed, but with a mask and hand disinfection.  (We have not made a decision yet regarding the annual fiestas but they are unlikely to go ahead.)

CREMATIONS & BURIALS:

The maximum will be 60 people outdoors and 30 in closed spaces. The maximum procession will be 75 relatives or close friends, always keeping the interpersonal distance or, where appropriate, using a mask.

Junta de Andalucis New Measures 20.6

The New Normal

http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/presidencia/portavoz/resources/files/2020/6/19/1592590769631Medidas.pdf 

You're not likely to actually be challenged if you exceed the limits, but it's possible. Passport entries into the country via airports and ferry ports are probably easy to check if the authorities need to.  If you're driving via France, I think it's going to be a lot harder to prove how long you've been here out of the 180 days. We always keep the last fuel receipt from France to show when we crossed the border, which is basically a 90 day insurance policy provided no-one has evidence of you bring here during the previous 90 days.  

But if its 90 days within the Schengen zone the time in France is counted

Your time starts when you enter France...and is added to your time in Spain

Agreed - you need to show passport to enter France don’t you? That’s the point the 90 days starts.

That is true, but how far someone would go to check back through all those details is debatable. Spain's not the same as France though, and I guess I was really looking it it from a French residential perspective.  In France, if you have an EU passport you don't need to apply for residence, you can just have it provided you have health provision in place.  Many who seek a carte de sejour are simply turned away if they are EU citizens. Of course, France is a more traditionally libertarian place, so although bureaucracy can be a nightmare, it's quite light touch in many respects and the authorities tend not to impose unreasonable restrictions. Spain wouldn't automatically know how much time you'd spent in Mojacar if you're resident in France.

Very true.  ETIAS will change all that, but at least that’s not coming in for a couple more years now.

Out of interest, how is France handling Brexit from a residency point of view?  Are they now requiring British nationals to register?