Does anyone know when the qualifying week for Winter fuel allowance is for 2024/2025. - Page 4

roland wrote on Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:01pm:

You are paying the highest ever taxes for many reasons such as funding one or several unwinnable wars nothing to do with UK, playing host to half West Africa and Asia, spending fortunes on infrastructure then cancelling on the stroke of a pen, funding Scottish overseas foreign embassies that have...

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... no legal right to exist, there are not enough hours in the day to even list 1% of the abuse of your tax payments, if indeed you pay any. The heating allowance is required because most with good sense leave theirs on a low setting in winter when they are not there, then come to Spain and buy gas cylinders firewood heating oil you name it, because it gets very cold down here in Las Negras. So it is usually spent by the people who qualify and receive it, on what is intended.

Coley50 wrote on Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:00pm:

I totally agree the system is abused but doesn't and shouldn't give people the excuse or entitlement to abuse the system more.

The UK govt is not paying this allowance to fund people abroad especially people who do not pay into the UK system to pay for services, not just income tax but day to day taxes such as vat. Why should UK tax payers pay your heating bill if you are not in the UK or at your UK address to keep it wa...

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...rm, when not their, this is immoral and a waste of energy apart from the public funding. 

The rationale for the payment is to stop people who cannot afford it to keep warm and safe not keep your house warm when you don't live their. If you can afford to live abroad and afford two properties why do you expect tax payers to subsidise you ??

I find it unbelievable that you have this entitled attitude ??

I wouldn't mind the govt paying my mortgage this month so that I can have a week abroad in the Sun, clearly and obviously this isn't going to happen and i wouldnt expect it either. 

I think you need to reflect on you clear entitlement, funded by everyone else.

roland wrote on Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:22pm:

You will certainly make yourself unpopular among retiree expats over here if you manage to get us all struck off the list of heating allowance payments. But I doubt you will manage that, the government will be well aware of this typical expat manoeuvre, and while it is not explicitly mentioned in...

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... the qualification rules it is not specifically prohibited. There are far worse abuses requiring attention, many committed by government itself and by its members, so looking too hard at the antics of pensioners will not be too high on their priorities, and should not so dominate yours, as is clearly the case. 

Coley50 wrote on Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:00pm:

I totally agree the system is abused but doesn't and shouldn't give people the excuse or entitlement to abuse the system more.

The UK govt is not paying this allowance to fund people abroad especially people who do not pay into the UK system to pay for services, not just income tax but day to day taxes such as vat. Why should UK tax payers pay your heating bill if you are not in the UK or at your UK address to keep it wa...

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...rm, when not their, this is immoral and a waste of energy apart from the public funding. 

The rationale for the payment is to stop people who cannot afford it to keep warm and safe not keep your house warm when you don't live their. If you can afford to live abroad and afford two properties why do you expect tax payers to subsidise you ??

I find it unbelievable that you have this entitled attitude ??

I wouldn't mind the govt paying my mortgage this month so that I can have a week abroad in the Sun, clearly and obviously this isn't going to happen and i wouldnt expect it either. 

I think you need to reflect on you clear entitlement, funded by everyone else.

Coley50 wrote on Mon Jan 22, 2024 10:52pm:

So, you clearly know what you are doing. Any abuse is abuse, so ok if you are pensioner ?  That seems to be what you are saying. Abuse happens like you say, for me it's more about the entitled attitude. 

roland wrote on Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:30am:

You make so many assumptions you are going to trip up among them. I did not come to Spain to live here as a retiree, I came here in 1976 to marry a Spanish lady and in due course became Spanish myself, but having paid a UK pension and bought a UK home with a UK mortgage decided to keep them on fo...

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...r visits and other family to use, and start afresh in Spain, paying also a Spanish pension and Spanish mortgage to put my feet on the ground in both locations. The tax and other contributions I paid to both countries during this process I leave to your imagination. I am fully paid up under two sets of rules, and have dual nationality, can come and go as I please in UK and in Spain, I can jump immigration queues by picking the shortest in the airport, I can avoid other immigration rules as the EU makes them up, and if I can have UK pay my heating bill in UK while I pay my own in Las Negras it's because I have paid for it, and I qualify, because I did things correctly way back and now enjoy the benefits of so doing. I do not understand how some people can be so bitter about others getting the best from a system, whatever its flaws, and I do not see the current discussion as examining a flaw, merely a condition you don't like, maybe because you don't qualify.

Coley50 wrote on Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:32pm:

Obviously touched a nerve 🤔 So you haven't paid any taxes in the UK since the 70s and feel it's appropriate to abuse and take from the system ? If we all had your attitude and entitlement the UK would be bankrupt and more broken than at present.

And just to confirm in 54 years I've never claimed or wanted to claim a single penny from the Government in benefits, you clearly have the means from your responses but feel it's appropriate to abuse and rob the state and tax payers. ...

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Another assumption, doubt you bought an house in the UK for the benefit of the UK and not sure why you think having mortgage in the UK benefits anyone except the bankers but unfortunately you seem to have the same values. 

Good luck in the future 👍

roland wrote on Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:58am:

Join a political party, I suggest Nigel Farage if he decides to form one, he's good at sorting out abuses and injustice. With your persistence anything is achievable including making yourself universally unpopular along the Spanish coasts.

Best wishes.