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Lizzie666

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:05pm

Lizzie666

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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:05pm

Austtrev wrote on Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:55pm:

Hi

Albanchez is lovely. Some bars, 2 supermarkets, medical centre and open air pool! Plus there are a number of English for advice etc.

We moved down to Spain in February, One of us has an Irish passport, I obtained my Residencia in May, as we are married, my partners residencia application went in straight away and should be sorted in next month or so. I also went autonomo (self employed) which got both of us onto the Spanish “nhs’ immediately, my partner has already had a pneumonia jab and we have both been offered a prostate test !

Yes, the paperwork seems to be never ending but it works out in the end.

 At the  end of the day, if you want to live in Spain you have to abide by their rules and just have to remember that you are the foreigner!

The people are friendly, it’s still cheap compared to UK and the lifestyle is lovely, and life is what you make it.

The Spanish Government has been trying to help with the cost of living, 20 cents off a litre of fuel, Vat on electric halved, price of bottled gas fixed and some free train travel as well.

If you need advice we would recommend Carly Flitney at Almeria Documents Direct who we found excellent, but obviously, other people will have different opinions.

We have no regrets whatsoever about making the move down here and don’t think you will.

Hope this helps a bit.

Austin and Trevor.

Thank you, all advice / pointers are very welcome .  Can anyone clarify something - are you required to live in Ireland before you can qualify as a citizen then obtain a passport? I’m a little confused? It seems odd that in order to reside in Spain on an Irish passport/citizenship you may have to live in Ireland first? I have not read this anywhere when looking into obtaining above by descent ie grandmother. Thanks 

Lizzie666

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:31pm

Lizzie666

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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:31pm

Austtrev wrote on Sat Jul 23, 2022 12:59pm:

One other thought.

Rather than Irish citizenship, which we think requires you to live in Ireland for some time, (we may be wrong on this), if you qualify for that why don’t you just get an Irish Passport? Makes it SO much easier believe me!

Austin and Trevor.

Hi I thought you only qualified for an Irish passport if you obtained citizenship first?  I want to live in Spain while owning a property and obviously want my English husband to be allowed the same permissions/ rights as me.



Hope that makes sense 😀

Austtrev

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:25pm

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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:25pm

Lizzie666 wrote on Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:31pm:

Hi I thought you only qualified for an Irish passport if you obtained citizenship first?  I want to live in Spain while owning a property and obviously want my English husband to be allowed the same permissions/ rights as me.



Hope that makes sense 😀

Hi

I got my Irish passport as my grandparents were Irish, I had to get all the relevant documents together and have my birth registered in Ireland as a foreign birth. I then got a “Birth Certificate “ which I then used to get an Irish passport.


Austin



Austtrev

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:29pm

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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:29pm

Lizzie666 wrote on Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:31pm:

Hi I thought you only qualified for an Irish passport if you obtained citizenship first?  I want to live in Spain while owning a property and obviously want my English husband to be allowed the same permissions/ rights as me.



Hope that makes sense 😀

No you don’t not require citizenship IF your grandparents were Irish. What this does is give you EU citizenship which gives you and your husband freedom of movement, but you must apply for Residencia within a certain period of time.

I think in total it cost me around £700:to get my Irish birth certificate and my passport, worth its wait in gold!

I’ve actually never been to Ireland!

Austin

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Austtrev

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:33pm

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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:33pm

Austtrev wrote on Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:29pm:

No you don’t not require citizenship IF your grandparents were Irish. What this does is give you EU citizenship which gives you and your husband freedom of movement, but you must apply for Residencia within a certain period of time.

I think in total it cost me around £700:to get my Irish birth certificate and my passport, worth its wait in gold!...

...

I’ve actually never been to Ireland!

Austin

Once you have your Residencia, your husband qualifies as your dependent.

Carly will tell you what you need, but my uncle, fortunately had my grandparents birth and death certificates, you’ll need your UK birth certificate ({ I think)  plus a copy of your marriage certificate, which has to be translated and given The Hague Apostille and must be les than 3 months old.

Austin



Jimh

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:13pm

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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:13pm

Lizzie666 wrote on Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:25am:

Hi, reasons for moving are to enjoy all of the things you listed! We are fully aware it’s not a holiday and there’s hurdles, systems and ways of life to adapt to. My father  in law lived outside Albox for 7 years so we have first hand stories, that being said he still raves about the lif...

...estyle and climate. He only returned because he lived alone and was getting that bit older.  I would like the opportunity to work but more to fill my time, rather than a financial necessity.  It seems taking the Irish route is my best option as I believe it would be easier to live there full time and of course purchase a villa. It’s not going to be a holiday home, so we want the security of knowing we are legal and have the right to remain.


thanks 

The Irish route requires that you can prove a parent/grandparent was born in Ireland and that you have registered your birth in Ireland. The delay at the moment is considerable so if you are going this route do it well in advance. You will need long version Birth Certificates for both the applicant and the relative (if it is a Grandparent) and it's not cheap. I believe that if one person has the EU passport their partner would not require one for residency but it is much easier if you both had one.

https://www.dfa.ie/citizenship/born-abroad/registering-a-foreign-birth/

It says the delay for registering a foreign birth is two years

Lizzie666

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:58pm

Lizzie666

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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:58pm

Jimh wrote on Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:13pm:

The Irish route requires that you can prove a parent/grandparent was born in Ireland and that you have registered your birth in Ireland. The delay at the moment is considerable so if you are going this route do it well in advance. You will need long version Birth Certificates for both the applica...

...nt and the relative (if it is a Grandparent) and it's not cheap. I believe that if one person has the EU passport their partner would not require one for residency but it is much easier if you both had one.

https://www.dfa.ie/citizenship/born-abroad/registering-a-foreign-birth/

It says the delay for registering a foreign birth is two years

Thank you I willl register my birth once I have copies of all documents required. I realise it will take some time, but I think this is the best option.



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