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DarioMartin

Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:44pm

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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:44pm

Doris wrote on Sat May 22, 2021 2:11pm:

I’m sure Dario that what you say is correct but it does not explain or excuse the shear incompetence of a government that would allow foreign travelers (which now appears to include everyone) to enter Spain without a negative pcr test. It’s simple really, if you want to enter spain and mix wi...

...th others, get tested.  NO NEGATIVE TEST, NO ENTRY. 

Apparently the government doesn’t agree with you on this.  Our infections here are falling, vaccine rollout is coming along nicely.  It’s not everyone - UK and Japan have been added to the exclusion list.

It’s a nonsense to exclude travelers from a country that has a good vaccination program, when we can’t even restrict Madrileños (which is the highest area of infections) from coming to the coast - mainly because the Premier of Madrid simply won’t abide by governments decrees 
 so, we may as well reopen.  

It’s easy enough to say “they are more interested in money” but it’s a truth that there needs to be income.  So let’s fleece the tourists over summer and try and regain some stability (and yes, tourists will be fleeced - I know quite a few places producing menus with “summer prices” and shops “reviewing prices and taking into account seasonal adjustment 
”)

There won’t be “another wave” or even another lockdown as some doom and gloomers are predicting.  We’ll need to keep wearing of masks, social distance and hand sanitizer for a while yet, but it’s a small price to pay for a degree of normality.

Doris

Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 3:08pm

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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 3:08pm

I’m surprised Dario that you do not seem to be aware of this latest announcement (not a criticism of you). Also, having had 2 vaccination jabs does not mean that you cannot catch this virus and spread it to others, it mearly means that you will not get seriously ill. Would you like to sit in an airplane next to someone who may or may not be positive. A simple (and getting cheaper) test to prove negativity will help to put all passengers minds at ease. It surely makes sense to ensure all passengers on a plane test negative. I really can’t find any reason for not getting tested.  Germany, in contrast has taken a different perspective and is now insisting all arrivals from U.K. must quarantine for 2 weeks. 

DarioMartin

Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 6:32pm

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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 6:32pm

Doris wrote on Sat May 22, 2021 3:08pm:

I’m surprised Dario that you do not seem to be aware of this latest announcement (not a criticism of you). Also, having had 2 vaccination jabs does not mean that you cannot catch this virus and spread it to others, it mearly means that you will not get seriously ill. Would you like to sit in an...

... airplane next to someone who may or may not be positive. A simple (and getting cheaper) test to prove negativity will help to put all passengers minds at ease. It surely makes sense to ensure all passengers on a plane test negative. I really can’t find any reason for not getting tested.  Germany, in contrast has taken a different perspective and is now insisting all arrivals from U.K. must quarantine for 2 weeks. 

Yes, I saw elsewhere that Germany has added UK to red list countries requiring 14 days quarantine and PCR tests, due to Indian strain, so it’s not inconceivable that Spain will do a U turn and follow suit.

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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 7:45pm

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Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 7:45pm

The amount of infection from the Indian strain is miniscule. Whilst being more contagious it is not increasing hospitalisation. It is probably running wild in Europe but  the EU doesn't have the capacity to identify variants, the uk is a leader in this field. I, m coming over on first of June and not expecting to quarantine on return as Spain will be classed as safe within 3 weeks

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Matthew

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:17am

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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 8:17am

jtp890 wrote on Sat May 22, 2021 7:45pm:

The amount of infection from the Indian strain is miniscule. Whilst being more contagious it is not increasing hospitalisation. It is probably running wild in Europe but  the EU doesn't have the capacity to identify variants, the uk is a leader in this field. I, m coming over on first of Jun...

...e and not expecting to quarantine on return as Spain will be classed as safe within 3 weeks

James

I'm no expert on the Indian variant and I don't think anybody is at this stage. But, I know the Irish government is viewing it with strong concern and travel abroad from Ireland is still restricted. But, I understand travel from Ireland may open in the latter half of July. I hope things work out Covidwise all over europe and we don't find ourselves fighting rearguard action again. But, things are looking good . . . 

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Dorthery

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 4:11pm

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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 4:11pm

Matthew wrote on Sun May 23, 2021 8:17am:

I'm no expert on the Indian variant and I don't think anybody is at this stage. But, I know the Irish government is viewing it with strong concern and travel abroad from Ireland is still restricted. But, I understand travel from Ireland may open in the latter half of July. I hope things work out ...

...Covidwise all over europe and we don't find ourselves fighting rearguard action again. But, things are looking good . . . 

I have just all your post and what a load of old you lot are the Spanish government has made a decision based on the way they see things and the tourist industry is concerned about its members and worried about the Spanish eccommony they need the tourist.

We have a villa in Almeria in which we were last there in early December dispite trying to return serveral times and our flights being cancelled we have had to change our plans on serveral occasion to our cost there is still the problem with Spain on the UK amber list we have had both our vaccination jads with all our other plans in place and hospital appointments and impending ops to deal with it is looking like October is the earliest we are going to be able to return to our villa in which is not how we would have liked it to be as there is always thing to be dealt with i.e orange trees and the other trees to deal with the pool and any damage to be repaired while we have been away we try to return every few months we have n desire to become residents and happy with 90day rules as well before you start on that.

Doris

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 4:32pm

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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 4:32pm

Dorthery wrote on Sun May 23, 2021 4:11pm:

I have just all your post and what a load of old you lot are the Spanish government has made a decision based on the way they see things and the tourist industry is concerned about its members and worried about the Spanish eccommony they need the tourist.

We have a villa in Almeria in which we were last there in early December dispite trying to return serveral times and our flights being cancelled we have had to change our plans on serveral occasion to our cost there is still the problem with Spain on the UK amber list we have had both our vaccina...

...tion jads with all our other plans in place and hospital appointments and impending ops to deal with it is looking like October is the earliest we are going to be able to return to our villa in which is not how we would have liked it to be as there is always thing to be dealt with i.e orange trees and the other trees to deal with the pool and any damage to be repaired while we have been away we try to return every few months we have n desire to become residents and happy with 90day rules as well before you start on that.

So, you have both jabs. Do you not realise that you can STILL catch this virus and pass it on to others that are not fully inoculated. (There are still over 60% not fully vaccinated in Spain) That is the topic of this post, i.e. whether to allow people into Spain who have not got a negative pcr test result.  It is irresponsible to not be tested if you plan to mix with other people (in planes etc).  pcr tests for travellers should be made mandatory. 

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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 5:29pm

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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 5:29pm

Doris wrote on Sun May 23, 2021 4:32pm:

So, you have both jabs. Do you not realise that you can STILL catch this virus and pass it on to others that are not fully inoculated. (There are still over 60% not fully vaccinated in Spain) That is the topic of this post, i.e. whether to allow people into Spain who have not got a negative pcr t...

...est result.  It is irresponsible to not be tested if you plan to mix with other people (in planes etc).  pcr tests for travellers should be made mandatory. 

This thing is never going away. NEVER!!!! . We have to live with that fact. Just the same as all the other viruses that are knocking about. There will always be different variants mutating and ever changing. We cannot carry on the way things are. We need to accept and return to normality. If we do not...

..who knows what will happen?

Dorthery

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 5:39pm

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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 5:39pm

Doris wrote on Sun May 23, 2021 4:32pm:

So, you have both jabs. Do you not realise that you can STILL catch this virus and pass it on to others that are not fully inoculated. (There are still over 60% not fully vaccinated in Spain) That is the topic of this post, i.e. whether to allow people into Spain who have not got a negative pcr t...

...est result.  It is irresponsible to not be tested if you plan to mix with other people (in planes etc).  pcr tests for travellers should be made mandatory. 

All this is your opinion I am sure the Spanish government have considered all the scientific evidence and looked at what they consider to be safe and with there economy in a very bad situation in that without tourist it is only going to get worse it's needs to be proactive in its approach.

We plan to go to Tenerife at end of June in which has been planned for sometime we were there last September and with very few tourist a lot of the business were struggling and with all the local restrictions in place we felt safe there must be a lot of local Spanish who have suffed one way or another who will be glad that the restrictions have been lifted we have a lot of friends near where we have our villa Spanish as well as English French Romain's who all have suffed due to this pandemic who I am sure will be glad that the tourist are allowed back in.

We have a local taxi driver in which we use to collect us from the airport and take us to the airport on return the UK the last time we spoke to him he was worried about how much longer he could continue on as evertime we thought we were able to return to our villa we booked him just to let him down in that we had to cancel again.

We hope he's survived this situation and thing return normal in what was normal 

Dorthery

Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 5:43pm

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Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 5:43pm

David1963 wrote on Sun May 23, 2021 5:29pm:

This thing is never going away. NEVER!!!! . We have to live with that fact. Just the same as all the other viruses that are knocking about. There will always be different variants mutating and ever changing. We cannot carry on the way things are. We need to accept and return to normality. If we d...

...o not...

..who knows what will happen?

I agree we have to deal with the situation and try to return to some sort of normal and do the best we can in trying to surpress this covid19 

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