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RichB

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:46pm

RichB

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Joined: 24 Oct 2020

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:46pm

Hi

As others have already pointed out, there is, we are told, a deal about to be ratified for the exchange of licences. However, that depends on who you believe (I don't mean on here, rather than from a political perspective) as sadly this is in the hands of politicians on both sides with clearly conflicting agendas right from the outset.

As of me typing this today, the message from the British Government (via their Consulate on the Brits in Spain FB page) is that the deal has been reached and that UK Gov has approved it but that it now needs approval from Spain's Council of Ministers that meet on a weekly basis. These meetings continue to happen but regretfully, there now seems little political motivation or priority for Spain to include this on the weekly agenda (a quick search of the net & the forums will give you a whole host of theories as to why this may be). All of those affected (and btw this will include yourselves as potential re-locators to Spain) are waiting...and waiting...and waiting. The Consulate confidently put out a message nigh on 12 months ago that they were confident they would have us back on the roads "imminently". That proved to be a rather ambitious and optimistic viewpoint that never materialised. Indeed yet again they put out a message 4 weeks ago suggesting that all those looking to exchange should consider going to do their medicals as again, "the deal is imminent". Keep in mind there is a cost to the medical and its only valid for 3 months. All of those folk who have naturally gone and got it based on the Consulate's message are now getting extremely anxious and quite rightly hacked off that either their medicals will have expired or they won't be able to get an appointment with DGT given the sheer flood of folk that will need appointments.

The Consulate's position is sadly now one of "we've done our bit, it's now up to Spain". One may argue that "our bit" should have included a signed and agreed commitment to an absolute date of resolution by both parties before they could confidently announce the deal had been done, but apparently that hasn't happened. It's just been handed over.

What you need to bear in mind is that if you take the Spanish test, as far as the motorbike element goes you will essentially be starting from scratch. That has significant ramifications depending upon the engine (cc) level that your husband wishes to ride and if he is willing to undertake the statutory time period that Spain enforces before progression to obtaining the level of licence that he may need for his desired bike. Spain's progression route is very different from the UK so it's just something to keep in mind.

I'm ever the optimist but also we need to deal in facts, and sadly as of today it is still at the mercy of the political agenda and therefore nothing can be guaranteed. If this is going to be a crucial sticking point for you in your move then you have to carefully consider your options.

And Stop Press as I'm now typing this, news incoming....apparently Spain has just today now signed off the driving licence deal with New Zealand. Ok I applaud it....way to go New Zealand. But I'm sat here wondering now a million questions 🤔🤔

I'll end this by saying Spain is a wonderful country and living here has numerous lifestyle benefits. But self-transport is a major factor in individual's lifestyles so you need to weigh up everything. Yes life is a calculated risk so this is just me hoping to point out some of the factors you may need in reaching your decision. 

Carol61

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:54pm

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Posts: 21

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Location: Almería

Joined: 7 Feb 2021

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:54pm

RichB wrote on Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:46pm:

Hi

As others have already pointed out, there is, we are told, a deal about to be ratified for the exchange of licences. However, that depends on who you believe (I don't mean on here, rather than from a political perspective) as sadly this is in the hands of politicians on both sides with clearly co...

...nflicting agendas right from the outset.

As of me typing this today, the message from the British Government (via their Consulate on the Brits in Spain FB page) is that the deal has been reached and that UK Gov has approved it but that it now needs approval from Spain's Council of Ministers that meet on a weekly basis. These meetings continue to happen but regretfully, there now seems little political motivation or priority for Spain to include this on the weekly agenda (a quick search of the net & the forums will give you a whole host of theories as to why this may be). All of those affected (and btw this will include yourselves as potential re-locators to Spain) are waiting...and waiting...and waiting. The Consulate confidently put out a message nigh on 12 months ago that they were confident they would have us back on the roads "imminently". That proved to be a rather ambitious and optimistic viewpoint that never materialised. Indeed yet again they put out a message 4 weeks ago suggesting that all those looking to exchange should consider going to do their medicals as again, "the deal is imminent". Keep in mind there is a cost to the medical and its only valid for 3 months. All of those folk who have naturally gone and got it based on the Consulate's message are now getting extremely anxious and quite rightly hacked off that either their medicals will have expired or they won't be able to get an appointment with DGT given the sheer flood of folk that will need appointments.

The Consulate's position is sadly now one of "we've done our bit, it's now up to Spain". One may argue that "our bit" should have included a signed and agreed commitment to an absolute date of resolution by both parties before they could confidently announce the deal had been done, but apparently that hasn't happened. It's just been handed over.

What you need to bear in mind is that if you take the Spanish test, as far as the motorbike element goes you will essentially be starting from scratch. That has significant ramifications depending upon the engine (cc) level that your husband wishes to ride and if he is willing to undertake the statutory time period that Spain enforces before progression to obtaining the level of licence that he may need for his desired bike. Spain's progression route is very different from the UK so it's just something to keep in mind.

I'm ever the optimist but also we need to deal in facts, and sadly as of today it is still at the mercy of the political agenda and therefore nothing can be guaranteed. If this is going to be a crucial sticking point for you in your move then you have to carefully consider your options.

And Stop Press as I'm now typing this, news incoming....apparently Spain has just today now signed off the driving licence deal with New Zealand. Ok I applaud it....way to go New Zealand. But I'm sat here wondering now a million questions 🤔🤔

I'll end this by saying Spain is a wonderful country and living here has numerous lifestyle benefits. But self-transport is a major factor in individual's lifestyles so you need to weigh up everything. Yes life is a calculated risk so this is just me hoping to point out some of the factors you may need in reaching your decision. 

Thank you so much for this response it’s been really helpful. We’re in no rush at the moment but are hoping to retire this year and would love to move to Spain but definitely won’t be moving if or until the licence exchange happens. 

Thanks aga

Alicia 11

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:19am

Alicia 11

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:19am

Leon wrote on Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:17pm:

Hi  can some one remind me where it is in Garrucha  that we go to renew  driving licence  (Spanish)

Thanks

leon

on the sea front just past the townhall building going towards Mojacar you need to phone for an appointment on 950 460 630 or 626 634 351 they open mon-thurs-fri 11.30 -2pm and tue-wed 5pm-7.30pm.

Leon

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:06am

Leon

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Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:06am

Alicia 11 wrote on Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:19am:

on the sea front just past the townhall building going towards Mojacar you need to phone for an appointment on 950 460 630 or 626 634 351 they open mon-thurs-fri 11.30 -2pm and tue-wed 5pm-7.30pm.

Thanks  Alicia   I will  give them a call

Leon

Plezard

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:20pm

Posts: 10

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Location: Mojacar

Joined: 14 Feb 2018

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:20pm

RichB wrote on Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:46pm:

Hi

As others have already pointed out, there is, we are told, a deal about to be ratified for the exchange of licences. However, that depends on who you believe (I don't mean on here, rather than from a political perspective) as sadly this is in the hands of politicians on both sides with clearly co...

...nflicting agendas right from the outset.

As of me typing this today, the message from the British Government (via their Consulate on the Brits in Spain FB page) is that the deal has been reached and that UK Gov has approved it but that it now needs approval from Spain's Council of Ministers that meet on a weekly basis. These meetings continue to happen but regretfully, there now seems little political motivation or priority for Spain to include this on the weekly agenda (a quick search of the net & the forums will give you a whole host of theories as to why this may be). All of those affected (and btw this will include yourselves as potential re-locators to Spain) are waiting...and waiting...and waiting. The Consulate confidently put out a message nigh on 12 months ago that they were confident they would have us back on the roads "imminently". That proved to be a rather ambitious and optimistic viewpoint that never materialised. Indeed yet again they put out a message 4 weeks ago suggesting that all those looking to exchange should consider going to do their medicals as again, "the deal is imminent". Keep in mind there is a cost to the medical and its only valid for 3 months. All of those folk who have naturally gone and got it based on the Consulate's message are now getting extremely anxious and quite rightly hacked off that either their medicals will have expired or they won't be able to get an appointment with DGT given the sheer flood of folk that will need appointments.

The Consulate's position is sadly now one of "we've done our bit, it's now up to Spain". One may argue that "our bit" should have included a signed and agreed commitment to an absolute date of resolution by both parties before they could confidently announce the deal had been done, but apparently that hasn't happened. It's just been handed over.

What you need to bear in mind is that if you take the Spanish test, as far as the motorbike element goes you will essentially be starting from scratch. That has significant ramifications depending upon the engine (cc) level that your husband wishes to ride and if he is willing to undertake the statutory time period that Spain enforces before progression to obtaining the level of licence that he may need for his desired bike. Spain's progression route is very different from the UK so it's just something to keep in mind.

I'm ever the optimist but also we need to deal in facts, and sadly as of today it is still at the mercy of the political agenda and therefore nothing can be guaranteed. If this is going to be a crucial sticking point for you in your move then you have to carefully consider your options.

And Stop Press as I'm now typing this, news incoming....apparently Spain has just today now signed off the driving licence deal with New Zealand. Ok I applaud it....way to go New Zealand. But I'm sat here wondering now a million questions 🤔🤔

I'll end this by saying Spain is a wonderful country and living here has numerous lifestyle benefits. But self-transport is a major factor in individual's lifestyles so you need to weigh up everything. Yes life is a calculated risk so this is just me hoping to point out some of the factors you may need in reaching your decision. 

Did my car test in Spain no problem theory test in English

motor cycle licence theory can only be done in Spanish SO DONT BOTHER IF YOU DONT SPEAK SPANISH

have you ever heard anything so dumb 

had i known all this i wouldnt have bothered moving here

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Plezard

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:24pm

Posts: 10

9 helpful points

Location: Mojacar

Joined: 14 Feb 2018

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:24pm

Did my car test in Spain no problem theory test in English

motor cycle licence theory can only be done in Spanish SO DONT BOTHER IF YOU DONT SPEAK SPANISH

have you ever heard anything so dumb 

had i known all this i wouldnt have bothered moving here


Jean and Phil

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:34pm

Posts: 60

5 helpful points

Location: Albox

Joined: 24 Apr 2021

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:34pm

JT47 wrote on Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:21pm:

When we swapped our licences we had to do a test like a video game with two controllers and a screen. It only took a few minutes and really wasn't too onerous. Don't worry

That was an aptitude test and only applied before Brexit. 

Now you have six months from getting your TIE card to pass your theory and practical driving test  

Also, check how long your UK license has left before it expires as you can't renew it in Spain. Might be an idea to renew it beforehand. 

KeithStruggles

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:43pm

Posts: 19

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Location: Oria

Joined: 29 Sep 2022

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:43pm

Hi,

My wife took the test and passed first time.  Cost about €1000 and lots of time studying.  The theory is in english but the book is a translation and can be difficult to understand.  She learnt more by going through the online  tests the driving school provide access too.  The practical is in spanish but the instructor spoke both languages, which helped.  Took her about 20 2 hour lessons.

Hope this helps.

Carol61

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:13pm

Carol61

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Posts: 21

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Location: Almería

Joined: 7 Feb 2021

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2023 6:13pm

RichB wrote on Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:46pm:

Hi

As others have already pointed out, there is, we are told, a deal about to be ratified for the exchange of licences. However, that depends on who you believe (I don't mean on here, rather than from a political perspective) as sadly this is in the hands of politicians on both sides with clearly co...

...nflicting agendas right from the outset.

As of me typing this today, the message from the British Government (via their Consulate on the Brits in Spain FB page) is that the deal has been reached and that UK Gov has approved it but that it now needs approval from Spain's Council of Ministers that meet on a weekly basis. These meetings continue to happen but regretfully, there now seems little political motivation or priority for Spain to include this on the weekly agenda (a quick search of the net & the forums will give you a whole host of theories as to why this may be). All of those affected (and btw this will include yourselves as potential re-locators to Spain) are waiting...and waiting...and waiting. The Consulate confidently put out a message nigh on 12 months ago that they were confident they would have us back on the roads "imminently". That proved to be a rather ambitious and optimistic viewpoint that never materialised. Indeed yet again they put out a message 4 weeks ago suggesting that all those looking to exchange should consider going to do their medicals as again, "the deal is imminent". Keep in mind there is a cost to the medical and its only valid for 3 months. All of those folk who have naturally gone and got it based on the Consulate's message are now getting extremely anxious and quite rightly hacked off that either their medicals will have expired or they won't be able to get an appointment with DGT given the sheer flood of folk that will need appointments.

The Consulate's position is sadly now one of "we've done our bit, it's now up to Spain". One may argue that "our bit" should have included a signed and agreed commitment to an absolute date of resolution by both parties before they could confidently announce the deal had been done, but apparently that hasn't happened. It's just been handed over.

What you need to bear in mind is that if you take the Spanish test, as far as the motorbike element goes you will essentially be starting from scratch. That has significant ramifications depending upon the engine (cc) level that your husband wishes to ride and if he is willing to undertake the statutory time period that Spain enforces before progression to obtaining the level of licence that he may need for his desired bike. Spain's progression route is very different from the UK so it's just something to keep in mind.

I'm ever the optimist but also we need to deal in facts, and sadly as of today it is still at the mercy of the political agenda and therefore nothing can be guaranteed. If this is going to be a crucial sticking point for you in your move then you have to carefully consider your options.

And Stop Press as I'm now typing this, news incoming....apparently Spain has just today now signed off the driving licence deal with New Zealand. Ok I applaud it....way to go New Zealand. But I'm sat here wondering now a million questions 🤔🤔

I'll end this by saying Spain is a wonderful country and living here has numerous lifestyle benefits. But self-transport is a major factor in individual's lifestyles so you need to weigh up everything. Yes life is a calculated risk so this is just me hoping to point out some of the factors you may need in reaching your decision. 

Thanks Rich great advice. We’ll be watching what happens but definitely won’t be moving to Spain unless the licence situation changes. 

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