Interesting read for intelligent posters here.
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:57pm
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An excellent post Matthew, thank you for sharing.
All signs show positivity and work is going on behind the scenes that we don’t realise. Well done those scientists 👏🏼
As for the Chinese saying they haven’t had the same success with the trials on monkeys, well can we really believe them?
I think the scientists won’t run out of people to try the vaccine on looking at photos from parts of the U.K. total and utter fools, thinking they can dodge the bullet. I blame the government, they refuse to give the police the powers needed to uphold a lockdown for fear of upsetting snowflakes.
Stay home stay safe
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:26pm
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:30am
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No, what she said was when they first learned of this particular virus, from Wuhan, in January, she thought it would be a “nice little lab project”, at that time not seeing how quickly it was going to spread, so when it exploded and became a pandemic, it ceased being “a little lab project” and instead became the institutes major focus
Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:26pm
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Already busted as a hoax. Here’s a link to a reputable, peer-reviewed scientific paper that busts the myth that it’s BioEngineered
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
Come on everyone, I thought we’d got past buying into the hoaxes now.
EDIT: extract from above paper for anyone who doesn’t want to wade through the nasty scientific fact stuff.
Theories of SARS-CoV-2 origins
It is improbable that SARS-CoV-2 emerged through laboratory manipulation of a related SARS-CoV-like coronavirus. As noted above, the RBD of SARS-CoV-2 is optimized for binding to human ACE2 with an efficient solution different from those previously predicted7,11. Furthermore, if genetic manipulation had been performed, one of the several reverse-genetic systems available for betacoronaviruses would probably have been used19. However, the genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone20.
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:39pm
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Ok ... I’m guessing you’re not too acquainted with scientific papers.... fair enough, they can be a tough read.
But you have picked a particular part of the report, misread it and massaged it to fit your view, unfortunately. The passage you have selected is not talking about the possibility of man made genetic recombination - it’s talking about how it skipped from animal to human. The passage you provided actually lends more weight to it not being man-made.
As I said, this was a peer-reviewed paper - that means it’s been read - and accepted - by other scientists in that field of study.
The article you supplied is from a man who holds a degree in SOCIAL science, not virology, epidemiology or immunology, and as the head of the PRI has a bit of a political axe to grind against China. There is no scientific evidence that supports his view - it is his opinion.
Your opening statement though really indicates where you are with this “I read it all” ... all what? Peer-reviewed scientific studies? or opinion pieces and blatant misinformation like the nonsense attributed to Nobel Laureate Tasuku Honjo? Oh ... yes, that’s well and truly busted as well:
Look ... if that’s what you really REALLY want to believe, then nobody can stop you - it’s your right to buy into whatever you want.... but when it’s demonstrably and provably false ......
Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 12:13am
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None of my response was sarcasm. Not everything is a personal attack on you. You accuse me of having a big ego, yet it is you who interprets any response as a sarcastic attack.
Again, you are welcome to believe whatever you choose, but if you peddle something that is provably nonsense and has no basis in fact on a public forum, expect pushback.
“It was stating that it could in FACT develop during passaging , they said “it’s Possible” . So if it did develop that way it still came from bats. We all know that anyway and there are reports stating the security was lax in the lab. So it escaped.”
<possible sarcasm alert> ... BATS? The passage you quoted was talking about Pangolins. <alert> a pangolin is not a bat</alert> “we all know that anyway” oh for .... this is what I mean about peddling NONSENSE. “So it escaped” .... that, is an almost superhuman leap of utterly illogical thought. That, is also not sarcasm, it’s an outright attack on your ability to form coherent reason.</end possible sarcasm alert>
**sigh** whatever. You have your views, you are clearly not interested in rational debate, only leaping to unsubstantiated conclusions. Enjoy.
Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 12:23am
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And I’d take it as a kindness if you’d do the same for me. Thank you
DarioMartin wrote on Fri May 1, 2020 12:13am:
None of my response was sarcasm. Not everything is a personal attack on you. You accuse me of having a big ego, yet it is you who interprets any response as a sarcastic attack.
Again, you are welcome to believe whatever you choose, but if you peddle something that is provably nonsense and has no basis in fact on a public forum, expect pushback....
Read more...
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“It was stating that it could in FACT develop during passaging , they said “it’s Possible” . So if it did develop that way it still came from bats. We all know that anyway and there are reports stating the security was lax in the lab. So it escaped.”
<possible sarcasm alert> ... BATS? The passage you quoted was talking about Pangolins. <alert> a pangolin is not a bat</alert> “we all know that anyway” oh for .... this is what I mean about peddling NONSENSE. “So it escaped” .... that, is an almost superhuman leap of utterly illogical thought. That, is also not sarcasm, it’s an outright attack on your ability to form coherent reason.</end possible sarcasm alert>
**sigh** whatever. You have your views, you are clearly not interested in rational debate, only leaping to unsubstantiated conclusions. Enjoy.
Bats are not Pangolins, omg 🙈
Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 12:47pm
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L181SKY wrote on Fri May 1, 2020 12:39pm:
Bats are not Pangolins, omg 🙈
Thought we agreed to ignore each other? guess you couldn't help yourself
Pangolins eat ants, termites and larvae and are often known as "the scaly anteater." Because they have no teeth, pangolins pick up food with their sticky tongues
Bats are mammals of the order Chiroptera; with their forelimbs adapted as wings, they are the only mammals capable of true and sustained flight.
I posted this because you seem to have difficulty in differentiating between them (that WAS sarcasm)
Interesting as well L181SKY that you seem to have chosen to remove all your posts to which I responded ....
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